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  • Originally posted by considerthis View Post
    You're a complete spazz...calm down
    No I'm just profane. So did NSAC just forget to add IVs to the exempt list? They have a list of approved medications or injections. IV rehydration is not on the list.

    There is good reason why IV rehydration is not allowed under most drug protocols. It can be sued to mask PEDs and in weight classification sports like boxing it allows competitors to cut more weight and rehydrate back up beyond what is naturally possible. This is dangerous for both fighters that is why its not allowed.

    The UFC is cracking down hard on IV re-hydration right now. Its not fair or safe for a middleweight to cut down to 147 then use IVs to rehydrate to 165.
    Last edited by GTTofAK; 02-17-2016, 05:35 PM.

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    • Originally posted by original zero View Post
      It's very sad that in the internet age, facts and logic are valued so little. It is indisputable fact that IV rehydration is 100% legal under NSAC rules. It's not a secret. It's been that way forever. NSAC admits it. USADA admits it. The fighters admit it.

      But all it takes is a few basement dwellers winding up on the same website and they can convince each other of all sorts of wacky conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact or reality.

      And since their reading comprehension is at a third grade level, they offer their "legal interpretation" of bylaws they do not understand and end up being so far off base it's not even funny.

      Worse, they have absolutely no experience in the sport, so they convince themselves that retroactive exemptions are something unusual or controversial, even though it's basic common sense that in an urgent medical situation, the athlete doesn't have time to find out if the treatment he wants is allowed and the only logical thing to do is to plead their case later on for why it should be allowed so a judgement isn't made under duress.

      IV use, in any amount, for any reason, is 100% legal under NSAC rules. If you don't think it should be, write them a letter, but please stop lying about whether it's legal.

      Anything to change the result of 5/2. The pain they endure daily is more than they can bear. The unbearable reality that their "God" was defeated, has caused them to create slow motion highly biased videos, and other conspiracy theories.

      Marquez smashed Manny.
      Floyd outfoxed and out boxed Manny.

      These threads will never stop.

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      • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
        No I'm just profane. So did NSAC just forget to add IVs to the exempt list? They have a list of approved medications or injections. IV rehydration is not on the list.
        As far as I've read, the only issue was usada granting a tue they didn't have the authority to grant, and not informing the nsac.

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        • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
          No I'm just profane. So did NSAC just forget to add IVs to the exempt list? They have a list of approved medications or injections. IV rehydration is not on the list.

          There is good reason why IV rehydration is not allowed under most drug protocols. It can be sued to mask PEDs and in weight classification sports like boxing it allows competitors to cut more weight and rehydrate back up beyond what is naturally possible. This is dangerous for both fighters that is why its not allowed.

          The UFC is cracking down hard on IV re-hydration right now. Its not fair or safe for a middleweight to cut down to 147 then use IVs to rehydrate to 165.
          It might as well be banned. There needs to be stricter rules with weight cutting and rehydration imo.

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          • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
            You dumb ****** forgetfull ****. You tried this **** before.





            It hasn't' changed you dumb****. WADA defines severe dehydration is a greater than 7% body weight loss. So are you saying that to make weight Froid cut form 146/.93 = 156?

            Face it you can't win. You are too ****ing ******.
            Lol. Yeah man rehydration protocols first have patients test the amount of water lost before administering. A kid passes out on the field from track practice. Doctors view signs, yes signs of dehydration, aside from measuring water weight, to decide... "well the kid was in fact dehydrated because we actually measured his body weight to the water we believe he lost..." lol

            Sit down son. Ez. #48!

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            • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
              Yet you cant post the ****ing rule! Are you saying that the NSAC simply forgot to add it to the exempt list?

              Shut the **** up!
              The "exempt list" is the *DRUGS* that they allow. Water is not a drug. Salt is not a drug. Vitamin C is not a drug.

              Your legal interpretation of the rules is incorrect. NSAC says you're wrong. USADA says you're wrong. Every attorney I've had read the rules says you're wrong.

              If you think the rules should be interpreted differently, write the commission a letter.

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              • Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                As far as I've read, the only issue was usada granting a tue they didn't have the authority to grant, and not informing the nsac.
                Then you haven't read much. USADA is under WADA. USADA only exists as one of WADA's 600 enforcement arms. WADA sets the rules on TUEs not USADA. WADA does not allow TUE's for IV treatment of mild to moderate dehydration only in the case of severe dehydration which they define as a 7% loss of body weight. And then it has to be very very well documented. Good luck finding any documentation that Froid had lost 7% of his body weight.

                These WADA rules are all clear and defined and USADA ignored them all because USADA is on the take. VADA was originally doing the testing in boxing. They tested fighters positive, promoters lost a lot of money, USADA was brought in, and except for Morales' positive test being leaked to the press no one has tested positive under USADA. What do you think the promoters are paying USADA for?

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                • Originally posted by original zero View Post
                  The "exempt list" is the *DRUGS* that they allow.
                  The list is titled medication or injections. Saline nasal spray is on the list. Saline is not a drug.

                  Blood doping is just oxygen. Oxygen is not a drug. Why is it banned?

                  Do you think they just forgot to add IV rehydration to the exempt list?
                  Last edited by GTTofAK; 02-17-2016, 05:48 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                    Lol. Yeah man rehydration protocols first have patients test the amount of water lost before administering. A kid passes out on the field from track practice. Doctors view signs, yes signs of dehydration, aside from measuring water weight, to decide... "well the kid was in fact dehydrated because we actually measured his body weight to the water we believe he lost..." lol

                    Sit down son. Ez. #48!
                    So you are saying Froid passed out at his house?

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                    • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                      Anything to change the result of 5/2. The pain they endure daily is more than they can bear. The unbearable reality that their "God" was defeated, has caused them to create slow motion highly biased videos, and other conspiracy theories.

                      Marquez smashed Manny.
                      Floyd outfoxed and out boxed Manny.

                      These threads will never stop.
                      We have to be lenient with these few last remaining Pac extremist , they are very young and not very smart they are drowning in their own hate , they were conned by Manny and for such young people its very hard for them to except the crumbling of their hero , guys go easy on them the Pac fanboys are mentally fragile .

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