Another Haymon fighter to appear on HBO: Oscar Escandon

[bigdunny1]

Glad to see Peter Nelson is doing what's best for the sport instead of holding onto grudges and cold wars.

Laughing at you pretending this is about HBO or any change in their philosophy. This is about haymon crawling back to HBO because PBC has failed in epic fashion and he has no choice but to do this if he wants to survive in boxing. He literally can not afford to put out PBC shows when he ALREADY paid millions for the air time. And he can only send so many fights to showtime. He bought up a ton of fighter contracts last year hoping to use them to fill PBC cards. Now he has too many fighters and not enough showtime dates for them and can't afford to send the rest to PBC because he lost his investors hundreds of millions and the check book is closed.

[Eff Pandas]

Some PBC fans, myself including, were suggesting HBO & Haymon would work together again so this isn't all that shocking a thing. If anything I'm just surprised it happened so soon in Nelson's reign & so often.

And I don't think HBO & Haymon/PBC need to be enemies for either to succeed or fail. The reality is HBO is getting smaller by the year (budget-wise) & I suspect we will see the end of HBO investing in boxing sooner or later & perhaps switching to a younger combat sports audience via MMA in the future + Haymon's PBC becoming the NBA of boxing is likely to be a decade long plan, give or take, that allows for them working with HBO for the short term with positives for each side in the meantime.

[bigdunny1]

Must be more than coincedence with the recent PBC financial news that Haymons fighters are moving away from Showtime-PBC.

A nice shut out from the Glaze man himself lol @steveucnlive pic.twitter.com/zg3RJQ49kB

— BOXING FANATIC (@BoxingFanatic__) February 12, 2016

This lines up with reports earlier this week about major changes coming from haymon fighters as a result of the massive loses from PBC.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

A nice shut out from the Glaze man himself lol @steveucnlive pic.twitter.com/zg3RJQ49kB

— BOXING FANATIC (@BoxingFanatic__) February 12, 2016

This lines up with reports earlier this week about major changes coming from haymon fighters as a result of the massive loses from PBC.

But but this isnt a reliable source doe.

[Outwest Exp 355]

He's got enough pre paid air time on networks for all his fighters. But he's flushed all his investors money down the drain and can't afford the purse and production costs for PBC events. That's why all his fighters going to showtime and now HBO instead of PBC which has basically no offical fights in march and has only 2 for the month of feb the lowest amount of PBC events since it debuted. And the overall number of PBC shows per month has dropped since Oct last year. This is not by design this is domino effect of PBC failing and hemorrhaging money.

How do you know. Have you seen a financial spreadsheet?

[HanzGruber]

But but this isnt a reliable source doe.

He clearly isn't. It's not even debatable. Pretty sure fat dan and or iole said the same

[Pigeons]

Must be more than coincedence with the recent PBC financial news that Haymons fighters are moving away from Showtime-PBC.

Showtime has Frampton-Quigg and the LSC-Martinez tripleheader in Feb. and Thurman-Porter on CBS in Mar. Haymon is giving HBO his leftovers as B-sides.

[Pigeons]

A nice shut out from the Glaze man himself lol @steveucnlive pic.twitter.com/zg3RJQ49kB

— BOXING FANATIC (@BoxingFanatic__) February 12, 2016

This lines up with reports earlier this week about major changes coming from haymon fighters as a result of the massive loses from PBC.

I don't think I could lose $444M in one year if I tried. Respect to Haymon!

[BoliviaChiLEsp]

PBC is the low quality Showtime spin off (except Santa Cruz vs. Mares, Porter vs. Broner and Thurman vs. Porter).

I think that Showtime encouraged Haymon to make PBC to build new stars.

All good fights have taken place in Showtime (example: Jacobs vs. Quillin).

[bigdunny1]

How do you know. Have you seen a financial spreadsheet?

Numerous financial reports about the loses of his investors. And in the last few week numerous reports of haymon trying to cut costs because those losses. And the number of pbc shows a month have dropped for months and now they basically halted completely with everything going back to showtime. You don't need to see a financial spreadsheet to see the writing is on the wall. PBC has been a disaster of epic proportions. LA Times reported that lawsuits are coming from the people who lost millions in this PBC investment.