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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    "Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. "


    Again, this is not my opinion. This is what the WADA TUE guidelines state.

    So like I said, for certain medical conditions, it will not be considered exceptional no matter how you want to read it but for you its an OR and an OR and an OR ...............


    Can we now get back to the main issues here?
    No more deflecting? I doubt it.



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    Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post

    THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR feat. THE AMAZING ADP02


    Still refuses to acknowledge the difference of AND and OR. SHOCKING isn't it? 3rd grade stuff.



    Direct qoute from the wada code:

    Regarding the criteria of retroactive tue applications : section 4.2 reads:


    4.2 Unless one of the exceptions set out in Article 4.3 applies, an Athlete who
    needs to Use a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for The****utic reasons
    must obtain a TUE prior to Using or Possessing the substance or method in
    question.



    section 4.3 is
    a) emergency
    OR
    b) insufficient time
    OR
    c) fairness

    Do you need further explanation OR are you willing to admit you are wrong?


    THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR

    Rath
    Spoon
    ADP09
    GTTokAK

    Reading is fundemental kids.
    Sorry but its YOU that cannot comprehend and stuck on OR and OR and OR.

    Hmmm, lets hope we are discussing the same thing because this is easy as pie.

    They explained it to you that YOU MUST submit within 30 days for chronic medical conditions because their definition of chronic is that you have had it long enough and its too bad if you think that you can request a retroactive TUE for this because you will NOT get one. It is not an exceptional circumstance.

    That is the point and that is what WADA said.

    Now if its sudden then they do not consider that a chronic medical condition and that may then be considered an exceptional circumstance and then they will look into that statement and judge. Again, if its for a chronic medication, they do not due to their own words (WADA TUE GUIDLINES), not mine.



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    • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
      This SNL sketch aired after the Ben Johnson Olympic fiasco!!

      https://*************/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

      PAC is dirty too!
      If someone feels like that I have no problem as long as it makes sense to them, cool .... go with it.

      I never said that I'm 100% sure that Manny is clean. I have always maintained that there was a possibility ......... but the way I read Ariza talk about Manny even now, questions that. Again, does not mean he did not but I analyze from both sides. Just like I know that people like Lance could have, I know that Manny could have.

      Its just more definite that Floyd did ..... the evidence is way more clear on Floyd in that he cheated.


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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Sorry but its YOU that cannot comprehend and stuck on OR and OR and OR.

        Hmmm, lets hope we are discussing the same thing because this is easy as pie.

        They explained it to you that YOU MUST submit within 30 days for chronic medical conditions because their definition of chronic is that you have had it long enough and its too bad if you think that you can request a retroactive TUE for this because you will NOT get one. It is not an exceptional circumstance.

        That is the point and that is what WADA said.
        Now if its sudden then they do not consider that a chronic medical condition and that may then be considered an exceptional circumstance and then they will look into that statement and judge. Again, if its for a chronic medication, they do not due to their own words (WADA TUE GUIDLINES), not mine.



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        Asthma. Is that a chronic illness?


        I'll send you a link to the 15 page wada pdf file if needed. There is a section specifically worded for retroactive applications.




        You can't win this argument. You lack the understanding and are too stubborn to learn.
        You did not create the English language and you have no authority to change the definition of OR.


        You are making us both look like fools at this point. I feel uneasy having to have such a lengthy discussion about the word or.

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        • #48!

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            If someone feels like that I have no problem as long as it makes sense to them, cool .... go with it.

            I never said that I'm 100% sure that Manny is clean. I have always maintained that there was a possibility ......... but the way I read Ariza talk about Manny even now, questions that. Again, does not mean he did not but I analyze from both sides. Just like I know that people like Lance could have, I knew that Manny could have.

            Its just more definite that Floyd did ..... the evidence is way more clear on Floyd in that he cheated.
            Thanks man! More definite??? PAC & Floyd are full of ****!
            PAC & Floyd fans debate silly stuff!! It all comes down to hero wordhip, and ball hugging!

            I love joe Montana, Lance too, but... I don't blindly follow or worship anyone, we got azz clown fans!

            I bet money, real money regularly, my woman hates it, but I win over all.
            She encourages me to bet, crazy right??

            I work with guys, who come up with odds for everything. I see things in ¥$€£, not in slow motion fanboy crap!!! Why hasn't Bob pushed for an investigation??? Makes no financial sense, and exposes his fighters to more scrutiny! Your love of PAC has been clearly established! Biased, but you think you are a fair judge!!

            Bet more, care about money, and your view of things will change. No altruistic made for TV, bullcrap, tear in your eye when you watch it drivel!

            PAC just lost, based on the framework that existed when he fought Floyd!
            It is over!! There is no pending investigation, no cavalry to come over the hill and save PAC.

            If Bob felt Floyd cheated.... Bob would be all over Floyd???? Yes or No?

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            • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
              #48!

              Floyd has ruin lives!!! Post Tramatic Floyd Beat PAC Disorder... In slow motion!!!

              Ay dios Mio!! SMH in slow mo!!

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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                Asthma. Is that a chronic illness?


                I'll send you a link to the 15 page wada pdf file if needed. There is a section specifically worded for retroactive applications.




                You can't win this argument. You lack the understanding and are too stubborn to learn.
                You did not create the English language and you have no authority to change the definition of OR.


                You are making us both look like fools at this point. I feel uneasy having to have such a lengthy discussion about the word or.
                I was ready to move on because this was just a deflection because Floyd fans said all medical conditions are the same. I was just trying to prove that they are NOT all the same. If you are now in agreement with my statement, I'm fine with moving on and have said that from the get go when I said "can we stop the deflections and get on with the issue?" Right?

                but just to point out that you are talking about something different. That would fall under an emergency situation. This makes it clear:

                (ADO-WADA)
                "If there are no permitted alternatives, athletes should contact their National Governing Body (NGB) or email us to find out what type of exemption is required and if a TUE should be applied for prior to use or after doping control.

                "Only in emergency situations (such as an allergic reaction, exacerbation of asthma, or the onset of Bell's palsy) should treatment begin without the necessary approval."

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                • Habitat for humanity!!

                  Let's get out into our local communities and do useful things for strangers.
                  I am taking Jhonny to an old folks home in Fujisawa where he is loved.
                  Y'all should see how old people light up when they see Jhonny!!

                  He spends a couple of hours greeting old people, who's family's don't show, and makes friends!!

                  I only get questions about Jhonny at that home... Not about me...

                  Going on a year now!

                  Jhonny is snoring right now hugging my girl. He ****ing hates men, but tolerates me!!! Funny **** really!!

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                  • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                    Thanks man! More definite??? PAC & Floyd are full of ****!
                    PAC & Floyd fans debate silly stuff!! It all comes down to hero wordhip, and ball hugging!

                    I love joe Montana, Lance too, but... I don't blindly follow or worship anyone, we got azz clown fans!

                    I bet money, real money regularly, my woman hates it, but I win over all.
                    She encourages me to bet, crazy right??

                    I work with guys, who come up with odds for everything. I see things in ¥$€£, not in slow motion fanboy crap!!! Why hasn't Bob pushed for an investigation??? Makes no financial sense, and exposes his fighters to more scrutiny! Your love of PAC has been clearly established! Biased, but you think you are a fair judge!!

                    Bet more, care about money, and your view of things will change. No altruistic made for TV, bullcrap, tear in your eye when you watch it drivel!

                    PAC just lost, based on the framework that existed when he fought Floyd!
                    It is over!! There is no pending investigation, no cavalry to come over the hill and save PAC.

                    If Bob felt Floyd cheated.... Bob would be all over Floyd???? Yes or No?
                    Joe Montana was one of my favorite players back then.

                    I actually liked Lance but I'm the type of guy that likes underdogs and after a while, I route for the opposite guy. Especially when there are other cyclists that I liked as well.
                    I did it with many guys that I was a fan of. Very few exceptions .... the exceptions are due to I'm a hometown kind of guy. But that is to be expected.


                    Oh, Bob is smart. You heard Floyd. He had said that he was ready to fight Manny again but Manny was injured. Bob knows that they can make lots of money without suing. You think you can get Floyd out of retirement after suing him? No way!

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      Joe Montana was one of my favorite players back then.

                      I actually liked Lance but I'm the type of guy that likes underdogs and after a while, I route for the opposite guy. Especially when there are other cyclists that I liked as well.
                      I did it with many guys that I was a fan of. Very few exceptions .... the exceptions are due to I'm a hometown kind of guy. But that is to be expected.


                      Oh, Bob is smart. You heard Floyd. He had said that he was ready to fight Manny again but Manny was injured. Bob knows that they can make lots of money without suing. You think you can get Floyd out of retirement after suing him? No way!
                      Bob already sued on Manny's behalf, and won. But Floyd made the fight after being sued right???. Yes or no???

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