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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    Do I believe he was dehydtated? Yes
    Do I believe he was severely dehydrated? That would depend on what your definition of severely dehydrated is. If you mean that he would have to be rushed to the hospital without the IV, then I would say no, but I'd have to admit that I can't be certain.

    USADA says it has to be an acute or chronic condition. I'm not sure of their definition of acute or chronic, so I'm left with no choice but to believe he has to fit into one of these categories because:
    1. He was chugging water like a madman, as would be expected of someone who is dehydrated (thanks for showing the video evidence).
    2. A physician gave him an IV.
    3. USADA approved of the IV and granted the TUE.

    It's very simple. They have the medical records and they acted. No one is questioning it at this point. Pacquaio's side doesn't even mention it anymore.

    Got it?


    Question: It's clear that you believe he was masking PED use. If that is true, how do you explain him giving a partial urine sample from BEFORE the IV to the same DCO that took the sample from after the IV and all tests coming out negative?
    So now we know why you were deflecting all along. Now you admit that the reason you couldn't come up with valid evidence is because you had none and you think Floyd was dehydrated just because Floyd said so.

    Floyd said just dehydrated, you said the same, USADA had trouble even saying it.


    Well for your information, it takes more than to be dehydrated to get an IV. So that is why we keep on telling you that what occurred was all BS. If it was BS then there is a reason for all that, right? Floyd should have been investigated for perjury, distorting the truth, violation on multiple times on not giving a sample when requested due to Floyd's delays. Masking PEDs and more ......

    This is not the first time this happened with Floyd. He has had them wait in the past too. There was a reason that the DCO had to come back and was supposedly with Floyd for 7 hours. Its because Floyd did not give a complete urine sample the first time. That means it was inadequate (insufficient). So the DCO had no choice but to wait and wait until Floyd was willing to give them what they wanted. Like I said, its not the first time Lance, I mean Floyd had them delay ......



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    Last edited by ADP02; 02-29-2016, 12:15 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      Im comical? Im deflecting?

      You made a random assertion, then provided an answer to your own question. Wtf???? Meanwhile you nor anyone else has answered a simple question.

      But ill play your game. It is very much possible that floyd cheated. It is also possible manny was born a woman. That does niether one of any good at this point now does it?


      Im dealing with someone who has claimed floyd has the refs, judges, a mole in top rank, usada, the media, showtime, hbo, wada, gatorade and steve harvey on his payroll in order to explain pacs loss......do you really think implying something is not possible would be my objective? Really? Ok you were wrong to think i said its impossible.


      So ill ask again.


      I need to hear your theory. I want your "expert" opinion. I use the term expert loosely but i want to hear your theory as to HOW DID HE PAST MULTIPE TEST. yes i agree its possible....and according to the schOOL of hauser md, even probable....

      BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN YOUR OWN WORDS HOW? Were the test imaginary? After all He does own usada. Was he warned each time? Is he using a new undetectable ped? He knows how to spell memo. Are there un spoken tue's and failed test??? Hauser said so. So which is it?


      But You keep pointing to the red flags and smoke....well it has to lead somewhere. Somwhere nsac wada usada didnt check.

      Can you provide a theory based on your knowledge and expertise?

      see how your logic work? it is flawed just like every genius floyd fans logic.

      There were basis in suspecting floyd cheated.

      what is your basis in even thinking that Pac was born a woman?

      can you differentiate a woman from a baby girl?

      when he/she was born he/she already a woman LOL

      doctor talking to Pac's dad: Congratulations sir it's a woman ha ha ha ha ha

      man we are going to have a good conversation.
      Last edited by Rath; 02-28-2016, 09:04 PM.

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        So now we know why you were deflecting all along. Now you admit that the reason you couldn't come up with valid evidence is because you had none and you think Floyd was dehydrated just because Floyd said so.

        Floyd said just dehydrated, you said the same, USADA had trouble even saying it.


        Well for your information, it takes more than to be dehydrated to get an IV. So that is why we keep on telling you that what occurred was all BS. If it was BS then there is a reason for all that, right? Floyd should have been investigated for perjury, distorting the truth, violation on multiple times on not giving a sample when requested due to Floyd's delays. Masking PEDs and distorting the truth .....


        This is not the first time this happened with Floyd. He has had them wait in the past too. There was a reason that the DCO had to come back and was supposedly with Floyd for 7 hours. Its because Floyd did not give a complete urine sample the first time. That means it was inadequate (insufficient). So the DCO had no choice but to wait and wait until Floyd was willing to give them what they wanted. Like I said, its not the first time Lance, I mean Floyd had them delay ......
        to add to that when floyd was not able to provide enough urine samples back then they've waited 6 hours. they never deemed floyd was dehydrated.

        recently their reason why they said floyd was dehydrated was because floyd can not give enough urine sample. then why did they not waited for 6 hours more like they did then?

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        • Originally posted by Rath View Post
          see how your logic work? it is flawed just like every genius floyd fans logic.

          what is your basis in even thinking that Pac was born a woman?

          can you differentiate a woman from a baby girl?

          when he/she was born he/she already a woman LOL

          doctor talking to Pac's dad: Congratulations sir it's a woman ha ha ha ha ha

          man we are going to have a good conversation.

          delahoya is a professional boxer FACT
          dela hoya has red boxing gloves FACT
          dela hoya dresses in drag FACT
          manny is a professional boxer - FACT
          manny has PLENTY of red gloves FACT
          manny must be a woman dressing up like a man -FACT


          And who was this mystery doctor - what was his name. Can you provide proof?



          By the way have you watched that "flat earth video" yet? Must not have if your here posting. Go watch the video. Thats the only thing we can continue to discuss.

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          • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
            delahoya is a professional boxer FACT
            dela hoya has red boxing gloves FACT
            dela hoya dresses in drag FACT
            manny is a professional boxer - FACT
            manny has PLENTY of red gloves FACT
            manny must be a woman dressing up like a man -FACT


            And who was this mystery doctor - what was his name. Can you provide proof?



            By the way have you watched that "flat earth video" yet? Must not have if your here posting. Go watch the video. Thats the only thing we can continue to discuss.
            then why did you not suspect delahoya was born a baby girl err...i mean a woman.

            all professional boxer that wears red gloves must have been born a woman if your logic is right.

            what you fail to connect in your logic was Pac never dressed in drag.

            your logic is flawed.

            told you it's going to be a good conversation.LOL

            oh by the way make a thread about flat earth an we'll discuss it there.

            you are so easy

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            • Originally posted by Rath View Post
              then why did you not suspect delahoya was born a baby girl err...i mean a woman.

              all professional boxer that wears red gloves must have been born a woman if your logic is right.

              what you fail to connect in your logic was Pac never dressed in drag.

              your logic is flawed.

              told you it's going to be a good conversation.LOL

              oh by the way make a thread about flat earth an we'll discuss it there.

              you are so easy

              Deflecting as usual. What is the name of the doctor???? Exactly. There is no doctor because you made it up. Keep defending manny all you want....truth is you have no proof manny was ever a little boy.

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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                Deflecting as usual. What is the name of the doctor???? Exactly. There is no doctor because you made it up. Keep defending manny all you want....truth is you have no proof manny was ever a little boy.
                so you made a thread about flat earth already?

                it is genius of you to think there was such a doctor.

                and yes there was no doctor because Pac was not born a woman.

                that's the logic of it Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

                man you're so easy.

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                • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                  so you made a thread about flat earth already?

                  it is genius of you to think there was such a doctor.

                  and yes there was no doctor because Pac was not born a woman.

                  that's the logic of it Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

                  man you're so easy.
                  Are you upset i said manny is a tran***ual?

                  Ive said alot of things. But you want to have a lengthy conversation about mannys manhood?

                  You Dont have answer. You win.

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                  • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                    Are you upset i said manny is a tran***ual?

                    Ive said alot of things. But you want to have a lengthy conversation about mannys manhood?

                    You Dont have answer. You win.
                    this thread is about peds it was you who brought up Pac must be born a woman and then support it with your flawed logic that Pac must be a woman.

                    Ha Ha Ha Ha

                    so who wants to talk about Pac's manhood then?

                    you are the easiest genius floyd fan i have ever dealt with besides your alt maybe.

                    look at what's under your username, what does it says?

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                      So you refuse to answer how. You only have red flags or smoke.

                      At what point can we investigate the fire? Can we at least discuss the fire? Or do we have to wait for detective hauser md to write in a blog? Or maybe a janitor at a local school to make a youtube video?


                      Lol lance is the a side of cycling. Holly ****! wtf are you talking about?

                      Blood transfusions? I hope your not talking about vampire facials made popular by yhe kasrdashins.


                      Boxers not floyd set the start date for testing. What boxers have done year round olympic testing? Manny? Lol.

                      Holly ****. Your just as wacked out as rath. That reminds me i have to link a flat earth theory video for him.......



                      So ok. I regress. Back on topic. Is it safe to say floyd used the same peds as lance being there are so many unrefutable simialrities between the two?
                      I have no problem answering your questions but going by previous responses from Floyd fans, I need to wonder if you are willing to respond as well from your end.

                      At least you said that there is a probability that Floyd did cheat.


                      As for your question: Floyd had endless opportunities to cheat.

                      - Since Floyd has the say on if the fight is on, he knows when is the earliest testing can start. So Floyd could have started way before the announcement of the fight. Right?
                      - Floyd most probably micro-dosed. When? More than likely right after USADA comes and get a sample, Floyd would micro-dose and try to calculate when is the next time that USADA may come. If Floyd's team calculates wrong then they had to have a plan to delay the testing process.
                      - May 1st: Perhaps from experience, Floyd was not expecting USADA to be coming to get a sample right before the weigh in. Floyd was caught off guard. So they employed all the tricks in the book. They delayed giving the complete sample (it took 6+ hours) and had an IV just before USADA. This would be used to dilute/Masking purposes.

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