who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

9. WHAT IS A RETROACTIVE TUE? UP

There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively. The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure i.e. the TUEC evaluates the application and issues its decision. The ISTUE stipulates which situations may result in the granting of a retroactive TUE, as follows:

Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary*;

or

Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the athlete to submit, or the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection;

or

Applicable rules required the athlete or permitted the athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE. This is applicable to Persons who are not International-Level or National-Level athletes (Code Article 4.4.5) and (where the relevant NADO so chooses) to National-Level Athletes in sports specified by the relevant NADO (ISTUE Article 5.1 Comment);

[Comment: Such athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out in ISTUE Article 4.1, should an application for a retroactive TUE be necessary following Sample collection.]

or

It is agreed, by WADA and by the ADO to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.



*A medical emergency or acute medical situation occurs when the athlete's medical condition justifies immediate Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Method and failure to treat immediately could significantly put the athlete’s health at risk. It is always preferable to address a TUE application prospectively rather than retrospectively. ADOs granting TUEs should have internal procedures to expedite the evaluation and granting of TUE for emergency situations, whenever possible, and without putting the athlete’s health at risk.


ADP02 leader of THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR

We can not continue any discussions until you demonstrate your understanding of conjunctions within the English language. You will need to distinguish the difference of the word AND along with the word OR by example using complete sentences. This is a non negotiable requirement.

Legal definition of the word OR.

or
conj. either; in the alternative. It is often vital to distinguish between "or" and "and."

"Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. "


Again, this is not my opinion. This is what the WADA TUE guidelines state.

So like I said, for certain medical conditions, it will not be considered exceptional no matter how you want to read it but for you its an OR and an OR and an OR ...............


Can we now get back to the main issues here?
No more deflecting? I doubt it.



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[Lester Tutor]

[GTTofAK]

The answer is in the fact that the TUE application was approved. Now what?

Have you ever heard of the term "rubber stamp"? The original allegation against USADA is that USADA feared a leak so they had Froid apply for a TUE 3 weeks out and rubber stamped it. When the accusation is that USADA rubber stamped a TUE the existence of the TUE is not evidence of innocence.

You really suck at this.

YOU need evidence.

Empirical fact. Froid was 150 30 days out. He weighed in at 146. That is not severe dehydration as defined by WADA and the medical literature.

That is more evidence than you will ever have.

Now, please explain how something that is NOT MANDATORY can be CONTROLLING. Is this your belief? Please explain.

Because controlling means it controls the process, things like legal precedence are controlling but not mandatory. Unless you can show some exceptional reason in the facts of the case why the controlling authority should be put aside you have no real case.

As I said the medical reviews should not be mandatory. There are possible exceptional circumstances where they should be put aside. Good luck showing such here.

I won't hesitate to tell you that I'm playing mind games with your punkass.

And you suck at it. Your attempted forays into semantics are laughable. You are obviously a millennial. Only menials are that ******.

[GTTofAK]

You seem to know a lot about what Landis said. Please show me the quotations that state he is implicating USADA in helping him cheat.

So you are arguing that USADA's internal controls are so lax that people outside of USADA were able to tip off the USA cycle team? You do realize that your argument is a lose lose.

[ADP02]

Have you ever heard of the term "rubber stamp"? The original allegation against USADA is that USADA feared a leak so they had Froid apply for a TUE 3 weeks out and rubber stamped it. When the accusation is that USADA rubber stamped a TUE the existence of the TUE is not evidence of innocence.

You really suck at this.



Empirical fact. Froid was 150 30 days out. He weighed in at 146. That is not severe dehydration as defined by WADA and the medical literature.

That is more evidence than you will ever have.



Because controlling means it controls the process, things like legal precedence are controlling but not mandatory. Unless you can show some exceptional reason in the facts of the case why the controlling authority should be put aside you have no real case.

As I said the medical reviews should not be mandatory. There are possible exceptional circumstances where they should be put aside. Good luck showing such here.



And you suck at it. Your attempted forays into semantics are laughable. You are obviously a millennial. Only menials are that ******.

If Floyd was allowed a retro TUE then everyone in the sport of boxing and any other sports that is weight related for that matter would be allowed to get one.

Actually when you think about it, almost anyone can bring up that excuse when the DCO shows up at the door.

"Oh, I just trained and I'm dehydrated and therefore I need an IV. Do not worry. In 18 days from now, my doctor and I will send in all the BS documentation that you want and more"


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[GTTofAK]

"Oh, I just trained and I'm dehydrated and therefore I need an IV. Do not worry. In 18 days from now, my doctor will send in all the BS documentation that you want and more"

Well unfortunately that interpretation of the rules only applies to Froid. If we look at what USADA has said about IV re-hydration when it comes to the UFC. USADA says hell no.

Dana White is paying USADA to crack down so USADA is cracking down. In boxing Froid was paying USADA for protection so USADA protected Froid. In cycling the ICO was paying USADA and making money off of Armstrong hand over fist so USA Cycling kept getting told when the piss man was comming.

Do we see a pattern here. When USADA is involved USADA gives who ever is paying them whatever level of enforcement they want.

Personally I dont even think that the UFC deal is on the up and up. White does what he sport cleaned up but still there is huge risk if a major star tests positive. Take Rousey for example. She has a bit of a weight problem being a meso-endo body type. I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a positive clen test. White bringing in USADA and not VADA is a bit su****ious. It very well could be an enforce the rules within financial reason type of arrangement. Where the elite money makers are protected. You cant get that with VADA.

[GTTofAK]

the investigation is in slow motion. that is why it's taking so long.

You pay any attention to who is doing more and more of the testing now in the big fights? Its VADA. No one trusts USADA anymore. Mayweather wasn't Hausers primary target. USADA was. Froid was just an example. Hauser won this. USADA's credibility in boxing is **** and VADA is taking over.

[Lester Tutor]

You pay any attention to who is doing more and more of the testing now in the big fights? Its VADA. No one trusts USADA anymore. Mayweather wasn't Hausers primary target. USADA was. Froid was just an example. Hauser won this. USADA's credibility in boxing is **** and VADA is taking over.

Can Boxer's Trust Bugatti If They Can Afford It?

Ford is cheaper!

[ADP02]

Well unfortunately that interpretation of the rules only applies to Froid. If we look at what USADA has said about IV re-hydration when it comes to the UFC. USADA says hell no.

Dana White is paying USADA to crack down so USADA is cracking down. In boxing Froid was paying USADA for protection so USADA protected Froid. In cycling the ICO was paying USADA and making money off of Armstrong hand over fist so USA Cycling kept getting told when the piss man was comming.

Do we see a pattern here. When USADA is involved USADA gives who ever is paying them whatever level of enforcement they want.

Personally I dont even think that the UFC deal is on the up and up. White does what he sport cleaned up but still there is huge risk if a major star tests positive. Take Rousey for example. She has a bit of a weight problem being a meso-endo body type. I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a positive clen test. White bringing in USADA and not VADA is a bit su****ious. It very well could be an enforce the rules within financial reason type of arrangement. Where the elite money makers are protected. You cant get that with VADA.

The problem is also that they are misinterpreting the rules for someone like Floyd which is a no no.

You cannot be using an IV for what Floyd claimed unless he was truly "extremely dehydrated" but we all know that is not the case. Not even Floyd fans can go there but a few brave ones have tried.

Same goes for anyone in boxing or UFC that would use that BS excuse.

[Lester Tutor]

slow motion!!!