who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Dosumpthin]

You are mixing an matching the rules for a normal TUE with a retroactive TUE. There is no mention of treatment of chronic conditions in the retroactive TUE section only the standard TUE section. The retroactive TUE section only allows for TUE's to be granted due to acute conditions.

This makes sense when you have an IQ over 90 because if a condition is chronic it is by definition not sudden should be dealt with through then normal TUE process.

You don't see the word OR?- it's highlighted in red.


As usual, pact@rds once again demonstrate their mental deficency for reading and comprehending.

[ADP02]

I think I understand why you're convinced that Floyd wasn't dehydrated. If I recall you posted pictures of before and after even throughout career correct? If you know the late 147 Floyd, it has been his most comfortable weight innit? Has he ever looked like a skeletor compared to many other boxers that look ''drained'' or have a hard time making weight? I assume you think that...in order for him to be dehydrated he'd need to at least look like a skeletor of some sort innit? In other words, your idea of a boxer being dehydrated only relates to one looking skinny and boned?

Let me give you a fact bruv. Most athletes and general blokes or people that play sports, when they faint or pass out because of lack of water or so called ''dehydrated'' aren't going to look ''dehydrated'' or skeletor looking. Again, as we said a thousand pages ago, people vary in appearances (in general) and let alone when being dehydrated. There's no way you can know if someone is dehydrated just by a look. When a fat or chubby person is dehydrated or passes out how can you explain that they look dehydrated? Where's your measuring stick? Fluids are very important to the body and where it's dispersed to keep joints fluid. When the brain lacks the proper fluid or when a person has a general headache most of the time it relates to dehydration. Why do you think people feel like crap on a hangover? The body is severely dehydrated.

So to recap, your idea about Floyd and dehydration will never work bro. If Floyd wanted to ''flush'' for whatever that means in a ONE DAY period, 750ml ain't gonna cut it, and blood doping is a completely different process than taking in water. The report wasn't about ''Floyd Seen With An IV Wound, Can't Explain To Commission or USADA.'' Even so, that theory would also be a fumble suitable for the National Enquirer.

I gave the best measuring stick around. Check out Floyd's weight. relatively stable. So that means that he was not significantly dehydrated. Ooops, you do not like that word "significantly".

All indications, including clinical signs, point to Floyd not being severely dehydrated. For anything less than that, WADA and USADA points to alternatives. Its all there. You just have to stop pretending that they didn't say all that.

In fact, the point about checking your weight was also the way USADA states to check your dehydration levels. USADA says, after weighing yourself, for each pound lost, all you need to do is drink 3 cups of fluids. So all that Floyd had to do is drink 6 cups of water or a combination of drinking and eating and he would be fine. USADA did not indicate an IV!!!

after you is USADA wrong?

[Dosumpthin]

You are mixing this all up. The first section is clearly discussing which medical condition (emergency/acute). Right?

If you do not know, there are instances where they allow retroactive TUEs for something other than medical conditions

BUT

as we both know, Floyd, Ellerbe, the NSAC and USADA said that it was due to a medical condition .... furthermore, the NSAC's statement is not their own. They are getting this information from the form that had the reason why he had requested the retroactive TUE. In other words, USADA sent NSAC the reason and the NSAC relayed USADA's/Floyd's statement to the media. Are you following me or not? I doubt it.

So again, they have ALL told you so DO NOT TWIST WHY. They told you why. You cannot agree to that because you know that if that was why then Floyd was not telling us the truth. Still following me or did I lose you?


Did we get another statement to correct their official statement? NO!!!!


"According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commisison, each man gave 11 urine and eight blood samples ......

Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. "

So we can stop with the guessing excuses from the Floyd fan club.

Plus, we can also stop pretending that the IV happened before the weigh in. Its all there. It happened after the May 1st weigh in.


So now you can go back to your regularly scheduled deflections!!!



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All the "retroactive the section" is stating is the different reasons an athelete will be allowed to submit a tue application after a sample is given. Only ONE condition needs to be met.



Whether or not the tue is normal (PRIOR to the sample) or retroactive (AFTER the sample) the criteria needed for the approval therapitic use exemption stays the same.





Whats so hard to understand about that?


Oh I know why.......it Makes all the other bull**** you type
Pretty irrelevant.

[Zaroku]

All the "retroactive the section" is stating is the different reasons an athelete will be allowed to submit a tue application after a sample is given. Only ONE condition needs to be met.



Whether or not the tue is normal (PRIOR to the sample) or retroactive (AFTER the sample) the criteria needed for the approval therapitic use exemption stays the same.





Whats so hard to understand about that?


Oh I know why.......it Makes all the other bull**** you type
Pretty irrelevant.

Their God lost... That is the real issue...

Marquez crushed him..

Ployd out boxed him..

They can't move on!!! Excuses excuses excuses!

[Lester Tutor]

I gave the best measuring stick around. Check out Floyd's weight. relatively stable. So that means that he was not significantly dehydrated. Ooops, you do not like that word "significantly".

All indications, including clinical signs, point to Floyd not being severely dehydrated. For anything less than that, WADA and USADA points to alternatives. Its all there. You just have to stop pretending that they didn't say all that.

In fact, the point about checking your weight was also the way USADA states to check your dehydration levels. USADA says, after weighing yourself, for each pound lost, all you need to do is drink 3 cups of fluids. So all that Floyd had to do is drink 6 cups of water or a combination of drinking and eating and he would be fine. USADA did not indicate an IV!!!

after you is USADA wrong?

I think you're just trolling. Probably some tech guy at NSB. Your profile name states ''Pac is a drug cheat.'' Surely you're pissing the toss.

[travestyny]

You are mixing this all up. The first section is clearly discussing which medical condition (emergency/acute). Right?

If you do not know, there are instances where they allow retroactive TUEs for something other than medical conditions

BUT

as we both know, Floyd, Ellerbe, the NSAC and USADA said that it was due to a medical condition .... furthermore, the NSAC's statement is not their own. They are getting this information from the form that had the reason why he had requested the retroactive TUE. In other words, USADA sent NSAC the reason and the NSAC relayed USADA's/Floyd's statement to the media. Are you following me or not? I doubt it.

So again, they have ALL told you so DO NOT TWIST WHY. They told you why. You cannot agree to that because you know that if that was why then Floyd was not telling us the truth. Still following me or did I lose you?


Did we get another statement to correct their official statement? NO!!!!


"According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commisison, each man gave 11 urine and eight blood samples ......

Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. "

So we can stop with the guessing excuses from the Floyd fan club.

Plus, we can also stop pretending that the IV happened before the weigh in. Its all there. It happened after the May 1st weigh in.


So now you can go back to your regularly scheduled deflections!!!



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Ok seriously, what the hell are you talking about?


I have no idea what you are going on about. Did I ever say it wasn't for rehydration or a medical reason?

Did I ever say the IV took place before the weigh in?

This is a pathetic attempt for you to dodge out of what is absolutely clear, and I've stated it as clearly as possible.

You are really clowning yourself now. Just admit that you are wrong already and move on.

[travestyny]

You are mixing an matching the rules for a normal TUE with a retroactive TUE. There is no mention of treatment of chronic conditions in the retroactive TUE section only the standard TUE section. The retroactive TUE section only allows for TUE's to be granted due to acute conditions.

This makes sense when you have an IQ over 90 because if a condition is chronic it is by definition not sudden should be dealt with through then normal TUE process.

You don't see the word OR?- it's highlighted in red.


As usual, pact@rds once again demonstrate their mental deficency for reading and comprehending.

lol. You know, I have to say nothing brings me more pleasure than clowning on this fool, GTTofAK. I respect ADP02 (to an extent because I'm sure he knows he's wrong about how he reads the ISTUE but he still won't admit it), and Rath and Spoon are just something altogether different, so I will exclude them from this, but with other posters that don't share my opinion I try to be respectful, definitely at first and always if they remain respectful toward me.

This fool came jumping in with all of these insults, and look how many times he's been proven to be an absolute moron.

GTT...you have negative reading comprehension skills, and you've been owned over and over. Maybe there was some kind of divine intervention that occurred to teach you that maybe you shouldn't go tossing around insults, lest you be proven to be exactly what you call others.

However, it's more likely that there was no divine intervention. You are simply a moron.

[GTTofAK]

You don't see the word OR it's highlighted in red.

I saw it, I read it correctly. You did not. You confused the mix and match from travestyny as on section because you are ******. He put two sections together to make them seem like they were one. The OR has no baring on the different section for a retroactive tue. Travestyny is trying to apply the OR to the chronic conditions section of the normal TUE process. If you have a chronic condition it is by definition not sudden and you should have applied for a TUE under normal protocol.

This entire argument being made of course is ignoring the FACT that WADA has specifically addressed IV re-hydration and stated explicitly that it is not a valid method for treatment of mild to moderate dehydration. Any vague reading of the TUE rules is trumped by WADA's explicit ban on IV re-hydration.

[ADP02]

I saw it, I read it correctly. You did not. You confused the mix and match from travestyny as on section because you are ******. He put two sections together to make them seem like they were one. The OR has no baring on the different section for a retroactive tue. Travestyny is trying to apply the OR to the chronic conditions section of the normal TUE process. If you have a chronic condition it is by definition not sudden and you should have applied for a TUE under normal protocol.

This entire argument being made of course is ignoring the FACT that WADA has specifically addressed IV re-hydration and stated explicitly that it is not a valid method for treatment of mild to moderate dehydration. Any vague reading of the TUE rules is trumped by WADA's explicit ban on IV re-hydration.

For Floyd fans, an OR is an OR is an OR ..... so it must be true.

[ADP02]

All the "retroactive the section" is stating is the different reasons an athelete will be allowed to submit a tue application after a sample is given. Only ONE condition needs to be met.



Whether or not the tue is normal (PRIOR to the sample) or retroactive (AFTER the sample) the criteria needed for the approval therapitic use exemption stays the same.





Whats so hard to understand about that?


Oh I know why.......it Makes all the other bull**** you type
Pretty irrelevant.

For Floyd fans, an OR is an OR is an OR ..... so it must be true.