who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[travestyny]

Manny explained it. He is concerned about giving blood.



Now your turn:

You just happened to have left this out of what Conte feels about this IV scandal.

"A conclusion that one might draw from these events is that it helps to have friends at USADA.

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Victor Conte is equally perturbed.

“I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me.

There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits. It’s very su****ious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete’s system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection. So why did USADA make this decision? Why did they grant something that’s prohibited?

In my view, that’s something federal law enforcement officials should be asking Travis Tygart.”
"

Victor Conte also said this:

"Does Nevada comm/ UFC have the balls to do CIR testing on all 3 urine samples collected from Jon Jones? IMO. All 3 results are SU****IOUS"

lol. Oops.

[Rath]

Why don't you answer any of my questions?

lol. Keep trying, homie.

already did.

what's left is your admission of mistakes made.

Lance and Floyd only similarities was iV used wrong - mistake no.1

Floyd never delayed any testing collection wrong - mistake no. 2

don't be shy be a man

[travestyny]

deflection

answer the question

do you believe NSAC doctor like you believed that Dr. Ayotte whatever her name was?

and also admit your mistakes.

be a man.

Believe NSAC? HAS NSAC EVER FOUND A BOXER TO BE DEHYDRATED????

DID THEY STATE DE LA HOYA WAS DEHYDRATED?

No matter how many times you try, you're never going to get anywhere because you are ******ed. Anyone who believes in that corner theory is clearly a moron. Anything else I can do for you?

[travestyny]

this is what i am trying to say you must admit you are wrong.

"Originally Posted by travestyny View Post
Dude, give it a rest. The only similarity between Lance and Floyd is the use of an IV. Does that mean everyone who took an IV has abused PEDs?



and Floyd never delayed any testing

Dude, give it a rest. The only similarity between Lance and Floyd is the use of an IV. Does that mean everyone who took an IV has abused PEDs?

It's already been discussed that you can't prove he wasn't severely dehydrated. You also never found out what USADA's standard was for acute or chronic dehydration.

Even if he wasn't severely dehydrated, you have to show proof of PED use. You don't have any. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you, but I'm certainly tired of saying it over and over.

Once again, all you need to know is that if there was definitive proof, Pacquaio's team wouldn't have dropped the idea to appeal to NSAC. Why would they?

already did.

what's left is your admission of mistakes made.

Lance and Floyd only similarities was iV used wrong - mistake no.1

Floyd never delayed any testing collection wrong - mistake no. 2

don't be shy be a man

Ohhh, I see. Now now, Mr. Rath. Really? Is that what you are talking about? Did you really go ahead and try to slip a line in my original quotation??? Wow. Now that is just the lowest of the low.

Notice the discrepancy between the two quotations above? Look at my original post. You will see that it doesn't even say "edited" at the bottom. Post number 1128. Unedited

You little piece of ****. Not only are you a moron, but you should be ashamed of yourself. I forgive you though. Once again, proven to be a clown, but also a rotten dishonest b@stard. You are dismissed.

[ADP02]

Oh I see, ''Manny explained it.'' case closed. lol

Conte is the medical PED expert. He could've said, ''You can CLEARLY mask WADA's accredited protocol testing for the May vs Pac bout given the time Floyd received an IV up to the collection when he gave blood on May 2nd. I know this for a fact. In fact, there are articles about this given that time.''

But of course generalizing keeps Conte neutral innit. Like the way Hauser referenced Conte for his dork article, yet didn't warn the public that Conte VERBALLY admitted that he knows without a doubt that Pac roided! lol

I mean we can spar all night. Come fight night doe...

Deflecting again. I'm not surprised.

With Manny, you needed no evidence. Right? You went as far as making videos since you were so sure. Right?

For Floyd, who actually used a banned method and his excuses are pretty much what Manny had concerns about. The difference is that Floyd actually used the banned substance. IT's a FACT.

Also, Floyd's weight was stable. SO it was not due to FLoyd being severely drained. Like Conte explained, someone should be visiting USADA to investigate the whole IV scandal.

Yet, its still not enough for you? The you have for Floyd is unquestionable. You are willing to take a bullet for him. Love is blind. That is for sure.

[Rath]

Ohhh, I see. Now now, Mr. Rath. Really? Is that what you are talking about? Did you really go ahead and try to slip a line in my original quotation??? Wow. Now that is just the lowest of the low.

Notice the discrepancy between the two quotations above? Look at my original post. You will see that it doesn't even say "edited" at the bottom. Post number 1128. Unedited

You little piece of ****. Not only are you a moron, but you should be ashamed of yourself. I forgive you though. Once again, proven to be a clown, but also a rotten dishonest b@stard. You are dismissed.

told you i don't have archive of your post but you said Floyd did not or never delayed any drug testing you were kindaright because you were talking about that Floyd vs Pac situationbut you forgot mosley vs Pac.

Check post 1135 your reaction about me posting delaying test collectors

just admit it and be a man

or i will be kicking zombies this time LOL

[ADP02]

Victor Conte also said this:

"Does Nevada comm/ UFC have the balls to do CIR testing on all 3 urine samples collected from Jon Jones? IMO. All 3 results are SU****IOUS"

lol. Oops.

The above smells of deflection.

What does that have to do with Floyd using a banned method?

Conte explained its against the rules to hand out a TUE for the IV.
Conte explained that IVs masking PEDs is extremely effective and therefore does not make any sense that USADA allowed that. Also said there are more effective ways to rehydrate.

Conte said that USADA should be investigated for that. Then Floyd would be cooked!

Ooops!

[travestyny]

told you i don't have archive of your post but you said Floyd did not or never delayed any drug testing you were kindaright because you were talking about that Floyd vs Pac situationbut you forgot mosley vs Pac.

just admit it and be a man

or i will be kicking zombies this time LOL

lmaooooo. Dude, I was well aware of the 24/7 episode. Don't lie. You were trying to slip a line in my quotation.

You just sonned yourself. This is an all new low for you. Did you think I wouldn't notice? Clown.

I hurt your soul so much that you actually tried to "plant evidence." You take this **** way too seriously. Go play in traffic now.

[Rath]

lmaooooo. Dude, I was well aware of the 24/7 episode. Don't lie. You were trying to slip a line in my quotation.

You just sonned yourself. This is an all new low for you. Did you think I wouldn't notice? Clown.

I hurt your soul so much that you actually tried to "plant evidence." You take this **** way too seriously. Go play in traffic now.

so you are admitting your mistake no1

your only complaint was mistake no2?

check post 1135 what does it says?

[travestyny]

The above smells of deflection.

What does that have to do with Floyd using a banned method?

Conte explained its against the rules to hand out a TUE for the IV.
Conte explained that IVs masking PEDs is extremely effective and therefore does not make any sense that USADA allowed that. Also said there are more effective ways to rehydrate.

Conte said that USADA should be investigated for that. Then Floyd would be cooked!

Ooops!

Conte said that Jon Jones T/E ratio was su****ious and that CIR testing would be needed. Once it was done Conte said it was still su****ious. lol

So if Jon Jones T/E was su****ious, what would he say about Floyd and the fact that it was CIR tested? I've noticed how you don't like to discuss the PED aspect of this. I thought that's what this thread is about, no?