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who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • CLICK to hear Roach say IV's are not illegal....

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    • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
      Froid didn't get a TUE for treatment of a chronic condition he got a retroactive TUE.



      Notice that WADA does not allow retroactive TUE's for treatment chronic conditions. Then we have of course WADA specifically addressing IV in my above quote that forbids TUE's for any dehydration other than severe. So chronic dehydration would not qualify for a standard TUE because WADA has explicitly addressed it so consider it an exception.

      Come on reading comprehension.
      ahahahhahaha. Jesus Christ. You did it to yourself again!

      4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:

      a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

      b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or

      You do realize that A doesn't have to be met if, according to B, there was insufficient time for the TUE to be applied for.

      READING COMPREHENSION!!!!! TRY IT!

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        so its always the other guy and you make "inconsequential" mistakes on purpose and correct them. thats called lying dude and in a "real" debate when you get caught doing that, no one in the audience or listening to the debate will believe anything you say afterwards.
        How do you square this with your defense of the Dr. who lied about EPO to cover for WADA's failure to catch Armstrong's EPO use?

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        • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
          Its a false statement. You can detect EPO form properly stored old samples that is proven. She lied to cover for the labs failure to catch a cheat.
          "I don’t dispute their findings,” Ayotte said. “If there’s residual EPO after five years, it was properly identified."
          Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2005/...o5P36R0sjV0.99


          SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            so its always the other guy and you make "inconsequential" mistakes on purpose and correct them. thats called lying dude and in a "real" debate when you get caught doing that, no one in the audience or listening to the debate will believe anything you say afterwards.
            What is the exceptional circumstance here? Froid could have gone to a doctor and been covered under proper protocol. You are allowed under the rules to get an IV in a medical setting.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              [SIZE="5"]"I don’t dispute their findings,” Ayotte said. “If there’s residual EPO after five years, it was properly identified.
              That is called double speak.

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              • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                How do you square this with your defense of the Dr. who lied about EPO to cover for WADA's failure to catch Armstrong's EPO use?
                I don't. Iam not defending anyone. My point is simple- That was Lance. The facts involving him are those facts and do not apply anywhere else.

                My other point-when you lie in a debate you lose your integrity and your arguments lose their validity. every experienced debater knows this.

                Just face it dude-you, much like Hauser, are trying to prove something in the worst way possible-uhh this guy had x, y, z, he cheated, floyd has x, and y, he must have cheated also.

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                • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                  Roach is wrong. Next

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                  • Originally posted by gttofak View Post
                    that is called double speak.
                    hahahahahaha. Your problem is that you can't readdddddd!!!!!!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                      What is the exceptional circumstance here? Froid could have gone to a doctor and been covered under proper protocol. You are allowed under the rules to get an IV in a medical setting.
                      this is someone worth $100 plus million, they made an exception for him as they do for alot of super rich, not that I'd know personally.

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