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  • #71
    Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
    Floyd ring IQ is superior to Leonards so he would not have had to bring anything like you're suggesting. Work rate??? Where do use lot get this nonsense from. Floyd would disarm Hearns jab, there's no point one better at adjusting than Floyd.
    He'd have been in survival mode.

    Ray tried boxing him but then realised there was no way he could do it.

    He had to fight him to win.

    What could Floyd have done?

    He's 5'8, with a 72" reach.

    He couldn't have out boxed him.

    He damn sure wouldn't have fought him like Ray did. He doesn't possess the power and will that Ray had.

    It's just a horrible match up stylistically.

    Tommy is 6'1, with a 78" reach.

    There's no way Floyd would have beaten him.

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    • #72
      POWER! Floyd has NONE! Why can't Floyd fans realixe that against elite welters in boxing history Floyd would get beat! Floyds best adding skills to power would be at 130lbs.

      If you can't get respect from a power puncher with speed ypour in for a long night. In Floyds case a short night!
      Hearns KO's him it's a mismatch!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
        POWER! Floyd has NONE! Why can't Floyd fans realixe that against elite welters in boxing history Floyd would get beat! Floyds best adding skills to power would be at 130lbs.

        If you can't get respect from a power puncher with speed ypour in for a long night. In Floyds case a short night!
        Hearns KO's him it's a mismatch!
        Power doesnt always win what kind of silly notion is that Floyd made a career of nullifying power , there are lots of ATG WWs Floyd could beat thats another silly comment as he did beat some ATG WWs , Tommy was beaten so its not impossible to beat him I dont think Floyd could because of the size difference but great fighters do great things and anything could happen .

        Every one of these fantasy fights with Floyd everybody always tells how Floyd will get KOed , Im positive that the vast majority just dont understand the defensive skills he has , fck he is hard to hit clean and he has a great chin so landing the second and 3rd is equally as hard to do like Pazienza once said of him you cant hit the guy throwing a hand full of rice .

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        • #74
          Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
          Where's my meds Dr. Plunger? Lol.
          Lol...when I do you give your riddle medicine you don't get it anyway lol.......I bet you was scratching your head mate with that duran riddle lol

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
            Power doesnt always win what kind of silly notion is that Floyd made a career of nullifying power , there are lots of ATG WWs Floyd could beat thats another silly comment as he did beat some ATG WWs , Tommy was beaten so its not impossible to beat him I dont think Floyd could because of the size difference but great fighters do great things and anything could happen .

            Every one of these fantasy fights with Floyd everybody always tells how Floyd will get KOed , Im positive that the vast majority just dont understand the defensive skills he has , fck he is hard to hit clean and he has a great chin so landing the second and 3rd is equally as hard to do like Pazienza once said of him you cant hit the guy throwing a hand full of rice .
            Give it up ......floyd is just to small to ever last with hearns....the reason why floyd done ok as a welterweight is because he moved up with the other fighters ..mosley,Oscar,guerrero,marquez,pacquaio, Maidana, cotto....they all moved up....there not natural welterweights.....who else is there ....oh there's ortiz...do me a favour reloaded......thomas hearns was almost 6ft'2 ..78'inch reach...he had power that carried up to light heavyweight for Christ sake.....thomas hearns is on a completely different sphere to a floyd mayweather jnr.....it's only fanboys who think he could last with hearns

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            • #76
              Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
              Defence, effective aggression and ring generalship ALL for Floyd.

              NSB Logic: Tommy Hearns boxed in the 80's, Tommy Hearn is stronger and taller therefore he wins by default. Let's forget about the judges criteria. Let's forget about the aforementioned Boxer (Floyd) being the most accurate boxer YOU have ever seen. Let's forget about all the chicken leg dances from Hearn. Nostalgia levels on 1000 and it disgusts me.

              By you're italic filled argument, Tyson Fury beats any boxer that's ever exisited in the Galaxy!
              A weak response.

              It doesn't matter when Tommy fought.

              Look at the evidence at hand.

              Tommy had huge physical advantages and enormous power.

              Floyd's sole ambition would have been to not get hurt. He'd have been in survival mode. It'd have been a blessing if he'd have just lost a decision.

              Forget Tommy's wobbly legs. How could Floyd have wobbled them? He doesn't possess the power.

              Yes, Floyd was accurate. But realistically, how many shots would he have thrown? Do you seriously thing he'd have been aggressive and fought him?

              Do you think he could have just pot shotted him?

              There's no way Floyd could have beaten him.

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              • #77
                "nullifying power , there are lots of ATG WWs Floyd could beat thats another silly comment as he did beat some ATG WWs"

                really? Who are the ATG's he beat?

                Your welcome to your opinion in my opinion he's not a top ten welter ever!
                He has NO Power! Don't you understand that he fights No One that has power!
                If you can't keep a quality talent who has power at bay you won't win let alone survive!
                I'm not taling about Pepino Cuevas who had a power left hook but couldn't box oranges. We're talking about Hearns!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
                  Ring generalship = the ability of the opponent to dictate the pace. I'm talking about Floyd Mayweather so that's self-explanatory, if you can't put two and two together you need help.

                  "I'm going to go out there and be the best Floyd Mayweather I can be"- Mayweather. He is quite possibly the best ever ring general to exist.

                  Hit and not get hit = effective aggression. Do you understand you can be effectively aggressive whilst fighting off the back foot.

                  Listen what you're saying isn't gospel, it's your opinion. You keep using generic terms such as 'his style is all wrong". You used the height and reach hypothesis and I've debunked it by applying Tyson to your theory. Mayweather beats Hearns according to an official Judges criteria.
                  How could he have dictated the pace against Tommy?

                  You haven't debunked anything.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
                    If you tell me Floyd isn't one of the best ring generals EVER you don't deserve your opinion to be taken seriously.
                    Nobody is dis*****g that. But how does that relate to facing a 6'1 monster puncher, with an ATG jab, coming off of a 78" reach?

                    We could give Floyd a chance if he'd got the will and power that Ray possessed. But he doesn't.

                    So if he couldn't out box him, and he wouldn't or couldn't have out fought him, then how could he have beaten him?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                      He'd have been in survival mode.

                      Ray tried boxing him but then realised there was no way he could do it.

                      He had to fight him to win.

                      What could Floyd have done?

                      He's 5'8, with a 72" reach.

                      He couldn't have out boxed him.

                      He damn sure wouldn't have fought him like Ray did. He doesn't possess the power and will that Ray had.

                      It's just a horrible match up stylistically.

                      Tommy is 6'1, with a 78" reach.

                      There's no way Floyd would have beaten him.
                      Spot on. Ray tried It and got out boxed for 6 rounds and decided he would have to fight to win. Floyd would never put his neck on the chopping block the way Ray did.

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