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  • #31
    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    I'm over this. spin it however you want. Shiming is a 34-year old 112-pound fighter, who was already beat in his first title shot soundly.

    With China's population being five times the size of the US's population, I simply hope you keep some context.
    with China being new to professional boxing I hope you keep some context. You should be the biggest cheerleader about this. This is free fights in China with free legal streams. This is right up your ally like PBC. If you aren't biased you will applaud this news.

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    • #32
      With the right cherry matchmaking and guidance shimming could be huge in china

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        Of course there is a per capita angle to these or any numbers like this. Its still an impressive number in general & from a country thats still fairly new to pro boxing.

        I'm super interested in how boxing is progressing these days to untapped & undertapped markets. Should be interesting to see how this India thing develops with Vijender Singh potentially being a player in the coming years.
        Vijender Singh is an interesting case, for the simple fact that he's on 30 years of age and fights in a weight class that is actually of global acclaim.

        Odd that you don't here anything about that, yet here this extra fawning over Shiming; if I had ti guess, Arum saw the money that he was being offered from the Macau casinos and spun the boxing press accordingly.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          with China being new to professional boxing I hope you keep some context. You should be the biggest cheerleader about this. This is free fights in China with free legal streams. This is right up your ally like PBC. If you aren't biased you will applaud this news.
          Free fights on TV is basically the norm in every boxing market outside of of the US and Australia; to act as if China having fights on TV is some revelation is nonsense.

          Zou Shiming is an okay-good fighter, late in his career and at a weight where no one gives a ****, that Top Rank is trying to hype as God's Gift to the Chinese market; something that's blatantly false. For a PBC hater, it's surprising to me that you now want to push that bandwagon.

          China, as a product/services market, is still a paper dragon; for a nation of 1.4b people, the actual number of folks well enough off, to worry about buy P&G Gillete Razors, Apple iPhones, or going into their pocket to get TV/internet or shell the equivalent of 30 Yuan(about what it costs for a fancy meal for you and some friends) to watch a single fight event, isn't all that high.

          Let China rally around a fighter, with people being so invested in aid fighter, that a growing audience goes into their own pockets to back the guy; to have Arum try and create a star out of thin air, and have you so steadfastly want to back such a story, is hilarious to watch.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            to have Arum try and create a star out of thin air, and have you so steadfastly want to back such a story, is hilarious to watch.
            Zou Shiming won 3 Olympic medals, including a gold medal in Beijing.

            His pro prospects might be limited by his age and style, but to act like he's being created "out of thin air" is rather blind to the facts.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
              Zou Shiming won 3 Olympic medals, including a gold medal in Beijing.

              His pro prospects might be limited by his age and style, but to act like he's being created "out of thin air" is rather blind to the facts.
              Guillermo Rigondeaux won 3 Olympic gold medals, is a 7-time Cuban national champion, was basically the best amateur fighter at his weight from 2000-2006, has already won world championships, and is basically the same age as Shiming.

              No one is discrediting Shiming, but it needs to be explained, plainly, that the hype of starpower from Top Rank over-exagerates the actual starpower that Shiming has or is likely to have.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by nubianpiye View Post
                Shut up **** head who gives a shot of it was streamed? How can you turn huge numbers of 36.5 million into a bad thing? This wasn't even a big event and it did a quarter of the super bowl numbers. That's a success any way you slice it, go watch the ****ty super bowl then yank whilst the rest of the world enjoys boxing and **** off a boxing website also
                because it was a non-Haymon event, so the Haymon sack-lickers have to try and denigrate it.......

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                • #38
                  Zou "Money" Shiming

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    Free fights on TV is basically the norm in every boxing market outside of of the US and Australia; to act as if China having fights on TV is some revelation is nonsense.

                    Zou Shiming is an okay-good fighter, late in his career and at a weight where no one gives a ****, that Top Rank is trying to hype as God's Gift to the Chinese market; something that's blatantly false. For a PBC hater, it's surprising to me that you now want to push that bandwagon.

                    China, as a product/services market, is still a paper dragon; for a nation of 1.4b people, the actual number of folks well enough off, to worry about buy P&G Gillete Razors, Apple iPhones, or going into their pocket to get TV/internet or shell the equivalent of 30 Yuan(about what it costs for a fancy meal for you and some friends) to watch a single fight event, isn't all that high.

                    Let China rally around a fighter, with people being so invested in aid fighter, that a growing audience goes into their own pockets to back the guy; to have Arum try and create a star out of thin air, and have you so steadfastly want to back such a story, is hilarious to watch.
                    Australia has a population of 23 million

                    China's middle class increases by more than 23 million p.a.

                    Furthermore, it has the 2nd highest number of millionaires in the world and is on course to overtake the US in this department relatively soon

                    Obviously the above doesn't guarantee that PPVs will become a bonanza in that country but most industries cannot afford to ignore it

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      Guillermo Rigondeaux won 3 Olympic gold medals, is a 7-time Cuban national champion, was basically the best amateur fighter at his weight from 2000-2006, has already won world championships, and is basically the same age as Shiming.

                      No one is discrediting Shiming, but it needs to be explained, plainly, that the hype of starpower from Top Rank over-exagerates the actual starpower that Shiming has or is likely to have.
                      Not within China

                      Yao Ming was a very good basketballer as opposed to being a great one

                      However, his earning power was exponentially greater than any other very good basketballer on the planet by virtue of his nationality

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