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  • #51
    Originally posted by chololo
    cintron is a bum he thinks he could beat margarito now that he fought a guy that was 12-2 he lacks when he is on preasure and thats all margarito
    He was 18-2 including one loss to Sugar shane Mosley, and another to Ishe Smith. David Estrada aslo had a win over the then up and comer Chris Smith. The way that Cintron beat Estrada is the thing that has to be noted. He stopped a guy who has never even been down or stopped. He stunned him many times, and boxed a smart fight.

    Cintron has been fighting since he was 19, he had no amatuer experience, and when he fought Margarito he had 23 fights, while Margarito had 35 and had a amatuer career. Experience has alot to do with this. I am in no way saying that Cintron can beat Margarito, but one must take into consideration, that Cintron is still very green if you consider his lack of ring experience.

    Now remember when Vargas fought Tito?....... the same concept.... Vargas was young and green, Tito was prime and hungry. Vargas was never the same. Cintron had no business fighting Margarito last year. He needed at least another 2 years.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by machotime
      He was 18-2 including one loss to Sugar shane Mosley, and another to Ishe Smith. David Estrada aslo had a win over the then up and comer Chris Smith. The way that Cintron beat Estrada is the thing that has to be noted. He stopped a guy who has never even been down or stopped. He stunned him many times, and boxed a smart fight.

      Cintron has been fighting since he was 19, he had no amatuer experience, and when he fought Margarito he had 23 fights, while Margarito had 35 and had a amatuer career. Experience has alot to do with this. I am in no way saying that Cintron can beat Margarito, but one must take into consideration, that Cintron is still very green if you consider his lack of ring experience.

      Now remember when Vargas fought Tito?....... the same concept.... Vargas was young and green, Tito was prime and hungry. Vargas was never the same. Cintron had no business fighting Margarito last year. He needed at least another 2 years.

      good post, I think Juda vs Cintron is a very compelling fight if the IBF mandates it. Cintron showed he can deal with adversity in the ring now, so a little more experience and some tutelage from Emanuel he could be a poor man's Thomas Hearns.

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      • #53
        Agreed, they both need to rebound or retire. Judah vs. Cintron would be a good watch.

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        • #54
          does anyone have the fight loaded up?
          I missed it, didnt get a chance to see it

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          • #55
            Originally posted by machotime
            He was 18-2 including one loss to Sugar shane Mosley, and another to Ishe Smith. David Estrada aslo had a win over the then up and comer Chris Smith. The way that Cintron beat Estrada is the thing that has to be noted. He stopped a guy who has never even been down or stopped. He stunned him many times, and boxed a smart fight.

            Cintron has been fighting since he was 19, he had no amatuer experience, and when he fought Margarito he had 23 fights, while Margarito had 35 and had a amatuer career. Experience has alot to do with this. I am in no way saying that Cintron can beat Margarito, but one must take into consideration, that Cintron is still very green if you consider his lack of ring experience.

            Now remember when Vargas fought Tito?....... the same concept.... Vargas was young and green, Tito was prime and hungry. Vargas was never the same. Cintron had no business fighting Margarito last year. He needed at least another 2 years.
            Vargas was never the same after the steroids hunny bunny, Cheato Triniwrap didnt do **** to him

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            • #56
              Originally posted by xcaret
              Vargas was never the same after the steroids hunny bunny, Cheato Triniwrap didnt do **** to him
              Vargas was never the same! It was even evident in his speech. If you listen to him prior to the fight and after, you could note the difference.

              It is a fact that many people have said, Vargas suffered serious damage in that fight. If you dont think so, you should actually watch the fight and see how much punishment Vargas took. Look at the last KD. Vargas looked as if he was hit by a truck.
              Last edited by machotime; 04-20-2006, 09:38 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by machotime
                Vargas was never the same! It was even evident in his speech. If you listen to him prior to the fight and after, you could note the difference.

                It is a fact that many people have said, Vargas suffered serious damage in that fight. If you dont think so, you should actually watch the fight and see how much punishment Vargas took. Look at the last KD. Vargas looked as if he was hit by a truck.
                Tito did **** him up in that fight, but not his career, he was doing good with Oscar, but Vargas gots a weak ass chin. Steroids **** up people, just in case you didnt know, and thats what happend to Vargas.

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                • #58
                  Yeah I have always liked Estrada,but it was satisfying to see him
                  take a beaten after all the disrespect he was showing to Cintron.
                  David might be a tough and exciting fighter,but he isn't too ring
                  smart.That lack of respect for Cintron's power was his downfall.
                  Did you guys see at the end of one of the rounds that Cintron
                  rocked him,when Estrada was going to the wrong corner and Kermit
                  was laughing at him and trying to direct him to the right one.
                  That was classic!I hope Kermit got his confidence back.It sure
                  looked like it.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
                    well i'm not sure it the fact of him beating a mayweather but in terms of how cintron fell apart in the margarito fight he learned something and that is always something you can respect er suttin!?!?!?
                    I dont think he learned anythin, he was jus in the ring w/ a different fighter.... a worse fighter

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by machotime
                      He was 18-2 including one loss to Sugar shane Mosley, and another to Ishe Smith. David Estrada aslo had a win over the then up and comer Chris Smith. The way that Cintron beat Estrada is the thing that has to be noted. He stopped a guy who has never even been down or stopped. He stunned him many times, and boxed a smart fight.

                      Cintron has been fighting since he was 19, he had no amatuer experience, and when he fought Margarito he had 23 fights, while Margarito had 35 and had a amatuer career. Experience has alot to do with this. I am in no way saying that Cintron can beat Margarito, but one must take into consideration, that Cintron is still very green if you consider his lack of ring experience.

                      Now remember when Vargas fought Tito?....... the same concept.... Vargas was young and green, Tito was prime and hungry. Vargas was never the same. Cintron had no business fighting Margarito last year. He needed at least another 2 years.
                      Margarito is by no means a Trinidad. Cintron jus kept measring and measuring w/ his jab then throwin the right,he will get countered by that by a good fighter. Jus like Cotto did to Randall Bailey in like the 2nd round i think it was.

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