Comments Thread For: Justifying Amir Khan's 8-Pound, $8,000,000 Gamble

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  • thack
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    #71
    Originally posted by Invictas
    Whilst an evenly matched fight would appeal to hardcore fans this fight is not going to be sold to hardcore fans its for casuals...You have to bear in mind the Casuals are fairly dim they buy into the story that is sold to them. Majority of people buying the fight will be casuals.

    Oscar in his recent interviews is already selling this as a David vs Goliath fight...He is already comparing to his fight with Manny Pacquaio, and Sugar ray Leonard moving up in weight to fight Marvin Hagler.

    Casuals love the David vs Goliath type of stories...!

    The story for the Mexicans will be of Canelo Alvarez defending Mexican pride
    against the arrogant British Superstar...So for them this fight is going to be about honour standing up against the Britishers and their colonial arrogance
    in this scenario the Mexican nation is going to be David and Britain the Goliath. Similar to when Barrera fought Naseem Hamed.
    If it is the casuals that are going to be the money men then 'fairly dim' doesn't do this fight justice.The way Oscar has done business over recent times, surely there can't be 1 million mugs with over $50 + to throw away can there? Already it seems even Canelo's fans are wondering what he is doing in against a guy like Khan , when their only memory of him is being bounced around the ring by light welterweight Garcia.If these casuals are really that dim ok but I think the way this is being presented at this time is just shock.I think when the dust settles and the word gets around I really would be surprised if this fight as any success attached to it.I think it will be more like a disappointing waste of time and in some cases money.
    Last edited by thack; 02-04-2016, 05:12 PM.

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    • Invictas
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      #72
      Originally posted by thack
      If it is the casuals that are going to be the money men then 'fairly dim' doesn't do this fight justice.The way Oscar has done business over recent times, surely there can't be 1 million mugs with over $50 + to throw away can there? Already it seems even Canelo's fans are wondering what he is doing in against a guy like Khan , when their only memory of him is being bounced around the ring by light welterweight Garcia.If these casuals are really that dim ok but I think the way this is being presented at this time is just shock.I think when the dust settles and the word gets around I really would be surprised if this fight as any success attached to.I think it will be more like a disappointing waste of time and in some cases money.
      Well they would not have offered the fight to Khan if they did not think it was going to sell you should listen to the recording of Oscars interview on Sky Sports.

      From what I can see majority of people are intrigued.

      It seems to me your hoping the fight flops because of your hatred of Khan.
      We will have to wait and see the British media machine on the ineternet is going to hype this fight to the Max...until it reaches the otherside of the atlantic. Newspapers around the world have carried the story of this fight, the hashtag #Khancanelo was trending on twitter around the world when this fight was announced.

      So sorry to disappoint you but Khan and Delahoya have pulled a blinder.

      In the words of Eddie Hearn him and Kell brook "Have been left holding their ****s"

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        #73
        Khan is only a 3-1 underdog, same as Bradley.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Invictas
          Well they would not have offered the fight to Khan if they did not think it was going to sell you should listen to the recording of Oscars interview on Sky Sports.

          From what I can see majority of people are intrigued.

          It seems to me your hoping the fight flops because of your hatred of Khan.
          We will have to wait and see the British media machine on the ineternet is going to hype this fight to the Max...until it reaches the otherside of the atlantic. Newspapers around the world have carried the story of this fight, the hashtag #Khancanelo was trending on twitter around the world when this fight was announced.

          So sorry to disappoint you but Khan and Delahoya have pulled a blinder.

          In the words of Eddie Hearn him and Kell brook "Have been left holding their ****s"
          You are certainly not disappointing me for the reason you give and blinder is a little premature .You say my hatred of Khan , no it's more of a genuine irritation.
          It's not Khan's fault he's in too deep and doesn't seem to realise but yes the British media will go insane and you are right give it the David and Goliath spin but just how many people fall for this and pay for it is another matter.
          I am all for the big fights as I am a boxing fan , I am still a little shocked that this is happening and my first thoughts after the initial shock was maybe he can , which were quickly over taken by reasonable thoughts of what a rip off and why should he be allowed.I suppose the only comfort left is once Khan is bouncing around the ring again this may not prove to in fact be his best business move. Eddie like Khan is just an irritating *** who is not doing Brook any favours. I think Khan is brave for taking this fight but given what it really is for the good of the sport it would be better it flopped as to showcase this mismatch can never be good for the sport.

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            #75
            Originally posted by The tucker
            I think the let down of the mayweather and pacquiao fights got to him. And he wanted a super fight by any means necessary.

            Plus even if he gets put to sleep by Canelo the brook fight will still be there. a loss to brook would be far more devastating to khan than canelo. it's not like brook is getting any better with the level of competition he has been facing.
            This is actually a really good point. Well done.

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              #76
              Originally posted by thack
              What I find difficult to understand is why Khan is taking this fight with little chance of winning when he would have been even money or more fighting Brook for at least double the money in front of 80,000 Wembley fans that he said was his dream, PPV for the main welter strap and the bragging rights to the manor? Khan has always had a problem being called chinny since the 54 second mauling at the hands of Prescott but then got through some terrible moments against Maidana (where a lot of referees would have stopped it) to come out with a points victory.Then came the knockout at the hands of Garcia where many thought it was over.It must have been at best confusing for Amir but then he lied , trying to imply that he had sparred many rounds with his super middle stable mate Andre Ward and taken his best punchers.If Amir is going in to prove he can dig and take here this is going to be a matter of minutes.As i've said from the start many think it's a cop out by Canelo and it simply shouldn't be happening, it is ! everyone's surprised and I'm hopeful this is not the time for Khan to prove how macho he is....again until we get to the bottom of it ,which we may never do .....good luck.
              I absolutely hate Khan and I know for damn sure, he could lose to Canelo and still get the Brook fight.

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              • Invictas
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                #77
                Originally posted by thack
                You are certainly not disappointing me for the reason you give and blinder is a little premature .You say my hatred of Khan , no it's more of a genuine irritation.
                It's not Khan's fault he's in too deep and doesn't seem to realise but yes the British media will go insane and you are right give it the David and Goliath spin but just how many people fall for this and pay for it is another matter.
                I am all for the big fights as I am a boxing fan , I am still a little shocked that this is happening and my first thoughts after the initial shock was maybe he can , which were quickly over taken by reasonable thoughts of what a rip off and why should he be allowed.I suppose the only comfort left is once Khan is bouncing around the ring again this may not prove to in fact be his best business move. Eddie like Khan is just an irritating *** who is not doing Brook any favours. I think Khan is brave for taking this fight but given what it really is for the good of the sport it would be better it flopped as to showcase this mismatch can never be good for the sport.
                No its a great event for the sport, loads of media attention on Boxing especially in the U.k. The fight is going to be exciting while it lasts.

                I agree Eddie is a *** and Brook who is a once in generation talent is an even bigger *** for wasting nearly 12 years of his Career in pursuing a Zero risk strategy and piggy back of somebody elses name when he could of been a name himself.

                If Kell Brook does not step up and fight someone with a pulse after this Bizier I am personally done with him.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                  I absolutely hate Khan and I know for damn sure, he could lose to Canelo and still get the Brook fight.
                  I agree, but a pathetic showing would take millions from the pot and if Brook were to lose in the meantime the pot would shrink even more.People were getting really bored waiting for this fight , there will always be an interest but maybe not for the kind of money that is currently available.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Invictas
                    No its a great event for the sport, loads of media attention on Boxing especially in the U.k. The fight is going to be exciting while it lasts.

                    I agree Eddie is a *** and Brook who is a once in generation talent is an even bigger *** for wasting nearly 12 years of his Career in pursuing a Zero risk strategy and piggy back of somebody elses name when he could of been a name himself.

                    If Kell Brook does not step up and fight someone with a pulse after this Bizier I am personally done with him.
                    Agreed , over and out.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Invictas
                      I dont agree with your definition.

                      This is delusional Khan who genuinely thinks he can win and he is going to go in there believing he can win otherwise we would not be seeing this fight... Mismatch would be Danny Garcia against Rod Salka or Mike Tyson against Julius Francis a quick blow out of an overmatched fighter.

                      For the record I think it is a mismatch in the same way as Pacquaio Vs De La Hoya was seeing as a mismatch, personally I predict the above scenario a quick blow out...But there is an aura of unpredictability here unlike Garcia vs Salka.

                      But if like your predicting Khan puts in a great effort and lasts into the 8th round, like you predicted then I would give Khan massive props.

                      And that would reflect badly on Canelo...I dont see how the scenario you mentioned if it were to take place could still be classified as a mismatch.
                      Let me explain to you my definition of a mismatch....1st. Khan has never boxed above welterweight 2nd when he has boxed at welterweight he has shown a lack of punch power and also poor form and has simply avoided any fighter that has knock out power 3rd. He will almost certainly be out weighed by 18lb come fight night.4th khan has been knocked out at 135lb and 140lb and has lost to Peterson and has also been dropped by an over hill Diaz ......now if Khan say has won the welterweight title and shown he can compete at the highest level since being a welterweight then I would say ok. Let's see if he can make history....so based on khans current form and even lack of it..and never competing at higher weight then to me that is a mismatch and his form indicates that.....no chance of winning and everybody knows it

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