Floyd Drained Canelo Down To 152! Khan's Fighting The Real Canelo, Not Drained..

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  • FlatLine
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    #61
    Originally posted by Rath
    was Delahoya vs Pac really at a catch weight of 145?
    De La Hoya weighed 145 and he needed an IV drip the day of the fight to get the fluids back in him because he was so weak trying to make the weight. De La Hoya hadn't been that low in weight for 11 years.

    Roach said that when he saw the fresh IV drip entry wounds on De La Hoya, he knew the fight was won already before the first bell rang.

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    • hectari
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      #62
      Originally posted by BennyST
      Not only that, but when he and Floyd fought, Canelo had not long been fighting at and around 150-154. It really made no difference, or put another way, it made as much of a difference as Pac bringing Cotto down 2 pounds.

      We could also go to this argument: Pacquiao fought a drained Cotto, while Floyd fought a rejuvenated, undrained Cotto at 154, who would then go on to become the lineal middleweight champion which just shows how much better Cotto was at 154-160, instead of the drained version that Pac fought.

      Canelo had actually had more fights at 152 and under than he had over 152 when he fought Floyd, so he wasnt drained and it was never going to be an issue.

      If we want to talk drained, Oscar coming down to 147 after not making it for ten years was drained. Morales having to stay at 130 when he said he couldnt make it and wanted the fight at 135. Making Margs move down to 150 for a 154 'title', if we can call two unranked 154 guys, one who'd never fought there at all and one that was an unranked journeyman level fighter there, fighting at 150 for a jr middleweight championship, a 'title'...

      Anyway, how did I fall into the trap of bringing up a retired fighter Floyd in a fight between two current guys that arent him?

      Weird fight this.
      Actually, you are bashing pacquiao in a thread that has nothing to do about him. Trying to justify floyd hypocrisy on catchweights. While slaming pacs with every minute detail and no understand or leniency.

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      • Box-Office
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        #63
        Originally posted by MPX309
        LOL, Commending Khan for agreeing Canelo's catchweight. . . When Khan is the B side. . . Okey?
        No, he is commending him on moving up 2 weights in the first place.

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        • Reloaded
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          #64
          Originally posted by hectari
          Actually, you are bashing pacquiao in a thread that has nothing to do about him. Trying to justify floyd hypocrisy on catchweights. While slaming pacs with every minute detail and no understand or leniency.
          The Manny weight conditions enforced by contracts have never before been done so many times by another fighter ever in history , Manny put weight conditions on nearly every WW fight , and you think Floyds CW of Canelo some how equals what Manny has done with weight stipulations , by gee you guys sugar coat Mannys ass , same ol story numbers dont lie .

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          • Furn
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            #65
            If Khan wins then yes his best win is better than Floyds.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              The Manny weight conditions enforced by contracts have never before been done so many times by another fighter ever in history , Manny put weight conditions on nearly every WW fight , and you think Floyds CW of Canelo some how equals what Manny has done with weight stipulations , by gee you guys sugar coat Mannys ass , same ol story numbers dont lie .
              Manny didn't belong in the ww division, but that doesn't justify him abusing it. All A sides will use there power,

              CW' s for me i mostly like bc more fights get made. Especially with the promoter beefs just not abusing it like Manny cw's, floyd same, Cotto belt hostage and now Canelo.

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              • Rath
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                #67
                Originally posted by FlatLine
                De La Hoya weighed 145 and he needed an IV drip the day of the fight to get the fluids back in him because he was so weak trying to make the weight. De La Hoya hadn't been that low in weight for 11 years.

                Roach said that when he saw the fresh IV drip entry wounds on De La Hoya, he knew the fight was won already before the first bell rang.
                but was the fight really a catchweight fight?

                i mean the contract says @145lbs?

                or delahoya came in @145 at his volition?

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                • Rath
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  The Manny weight conditions enforced by contracts have never before been done so many times by another fighter ever in history , Manny put weight conditions on nearly every WW fight , and you think Floyds CW of Canelo some how equals what Manny has done with weight stipulations , by gee you guys sugar coat Mannys ass , same ol story numbers dont lie .
                  marquez was at a catchweight fight of 144lbs

                  coming in at 146 is not even trying to lose that extra two pounds should be considered a loss but was it a title fight i am not sure.

                  name all Pac's catchweight fights? where he drains opponents but he himself don't bloat his weight?
                  Last edited by Rath; 02-04-2016, 07:38 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by FlatLine
                    How far down does this drop Floyd now on the All Time landscape and how far below Khan does he descend? He made Canelo fight at a 152 catchweight, he avoided Khan repeatedly and instead fought someone Khan already beat (Maidana), even after Khan won his own public poll to fight him. And now Khan is fighting Canelo at 155 where he won't be drained, unlike the clearly weight-drained version of Canelo that Floyd fought. So there we have it.

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                    Everybody here should know by now I'm not a Floyd groupie but this right here @#$$%! This right here! Dis sum bull****!!!
                    So you're ranking Khan higher just because he's fighting Canelo at a higher weight. LMAO!!! Let me ask you this. What if Khan get GTFO in the first round? I mean FFS! They haven't even fought yet!
                    Don't get me wrong I think Canelo was drained in the Floyd fight and catch weights are bull**** but who cares if Khan jumped at the chance to get a big payday. He doesn't have a choice remember he's the B side. Maybe if Khan was the huge star he wishes he was and Canelo was the desperate one Khan has been, Khan might have ask for the same catch weight Floyd asked for.

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                    • MPX309
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Box-Office
                      No, he is commending him on moving up 2 weights in the first place.
                      Yeah, that's the point. He didn't have the choice. He is the B side. He fights at Canelo's terms.

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