The Luis Ortiz Pass

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    I can't get too up in arms about these sorta situations while still feeling like I'd rather see Ortiz vs a better opponent.

    The reality of Ortiz's situation is he's in that place right now pretty much every guy who's burst onto the scene outta nowhere has been. He's too good for the risk vs pay dynamic for most of the guys fans would rather him fight right now. So basically if you beat Ortiz you beat a old guy no one knows or barely knows &/or you beat a more dangerous opponent than the pay you got represents the risk you took. That tends to lead to you fighting the 61st best guy in your division more than someone in the top 10 or top 20.

    And for full disclosure I'm no fanboy of Ortiz, I actually feel he's extremely overrated right now, but I've seen this dynamic 1000's of time at this point. Its pretty predictable in fact & you'll see it more often than not when a guy comes outta virtually nowhere to get a respectable high level W.

    I'd also agree HBO control's the narrative of their fights & boxers better than anyone in the game & sure they are doing that here or will be (I haven't heard a whole lot from them at this point on this specific fight tbh), but thats what they are supposed to do. You're supposed to hype fights & boxers in the boxing business or you aren't doing very good boxing business so I don't think you can fault them or make it a negative for doing that & excelling at it.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #12
      Well he burst onto the scene against Jennings, taking a fight against a soft touch to really establish himself with viewers is probably wise. Plus one of the main questions about Ortiz is can he be a consistent guy.

      Not really main event material though, that is a separate issue.

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      • lefthook2daliva
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Well he burst onto the scene against Jennings, taking a fight against a soft touch to really establish himself with viewers is probably wise. Plus one of the main questions about Ortiz is can he be a consistent guy.

        Not really main event material though, that is a separate issue.
        That's the big one for me so the more fights, the better. Also, he's kind of late in the game agewise.

        My fear is that the upper guys will just freeze him out. More tv fights are better against any opposition at this point, imo.

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