Comments Thread For: Roberto Duran: I Would Have Busted All of Mayweather's Ribs!

[Tom Cruise]

A good video showing some of the stylistic flaws that Mayweather has when dealing with intelligent aggression. Yes he is old here, but its not that much different to tactics that Castillo and De la Hoya used succesfully at times vs Floyd.

He is one of the best defensive fighters who has ever lived (maybe the best) but he seems over reliant on it at times and often falls back on defense when it may not be the best option. He [philly]shells up when it might be better to move and he backs up in straight lines when faced with feints, jabs and level changes. The best fighters, like Duran, would exploit that. Hell, Maidana exploited it, but he didnt have the technique or ability on the inside to really make Mayweather pay for his mistakes.

[hugh grant]

If Floyd fought more regularly he'd have more losses. PAC is Floyd's best win and on the basis of Floyd beating poac I can't say hred beat Duran.
Why don't Floyd try beat a monster? If he beats a monster who is supposed to kill him and Floyd prevails I'd lonve to support Floyd and back him.

[therealpugilist]

A good video showing some of the stylistic flaws that Mayweather has when dealing with intelligent aggression. Yes he is old here, but its not that much different to tactics that Castillo and De la Hoya used succesfully at times vs Floyd.

He is one of the best defensive fighters who has ever lived (maybe the best) but he seems over reliant on it at times and often falls back on defense when it may not be the best option. He [philly]shells up when it might be better to move and he backs up in straight lines when faced with feints, jabs and level changes. The best fighters, like Duran, would exploit that. Hell, Maidana exploited it, but he didnt have the technique or ability on the inside to really make Mayweather pay for his mistakes.

the body shots inside, the jab to the body and keeping his back off the ropes was Maidana's undoing. Also bny mid fight, Maidana's jab was being countered over the top and by body shots....thats why it was non existent the last 3rd of the fight

Hell of an effort....only guys with a chance with Mayweather are the ones willing to take the beating to win....i.e. Jesus Chavez, Hatton and Maidana...2 of them got stopped and Maidana got dominated the second half of the fight


its a lot to to ask of anyone to throw 70 or more punches a round while get hit 40% or more of the time by Floyd and land no better than 20-30 percent



gtreat post though my man

[Sweet Jones]

Every time Duran loses a fight its because he was either ill prepared, uninterested, out of shape, ate something bad before the fight, or all of the above.

I love Duran but damn... fans need to let that bull**** go.

Exactly. The more you point out the Kirkland Laing level performances on his resume, the more they brag about the 'Duran of Montreal'.

Hilarious.

[New England]

took a very long time to answer a simple question.

SO Duran on his best night would beat Floyd and on his worst nights he wouldn't. He also lost to Benitez who isn't as good as Floyd. SO we have 3 people Duran lost to that are not as good as Floyd. All of them have a longer reach than Duran does.

For everything Duran brings to the ring, even on the night he fought SRL, he'd be dealing with Floyd who was faster and has about a 6 inch reach advantage (unheard of at 135) despite being about the same height.

This would be an epic style matchup that I think goes either way. Duran very well could beat Floyd into submission just as easily as Floyd would frustrate the absolute sh-t out of Duran by boxing on the outside. we know Floyd is NEVER going to do what SRL did in the 1st fight and try to beat DUran at his own game.

If its 15rds, I favor Duran. 12 I'd go with Floyd.

i asked you to use your own mouth and ask me if you wanted me to say that duran would lose to floyd if he was out of shape, and you refused . then you asked me to go through the thread and find what you wrote like i don't have anything better to do

you wanted to know if duran would lose to floyd if he was out of shape, and to that i ask "who the f#ck wants to know about a fantasy fight where one dude is out of shape?" a fanboy who wants to hear "floyd would beat duran" from the mouth of an unbiased, expert on history and the career of roberto duran.

what is this "best nifhg worst night" crap? in and out of shape is the discussion.

in shape duran beats floyd. you took 3 pages to ask me if out of shape duran loses to floyd, and i told oyu he did. who f#cking cares? do you need to hang your hat on a win over a dude who wasn't in shape?


in shape duran beat up ray leonard early on, and leonard had to turn into an animal to make it an even fight. duran was all he could handle. lesser fighters have gotten floyd to the ropes. much, much lesser fighters. he'd never fought anybody close to having duran's combination of skills, power, and chin.


duran fought leonard, who has longer arms than floyd, more power, a better chin, and was physically stronger. and he did a lot of damage to him and beat him decisively. when people talk about why duran beats floyd, they can look to actual fights. when people talk about floyd beating duran they cannot. what fights are you basing your opinion?


and don't you think it's a bit funny that you pick floyd to win virtually every fantasy fight, side with floyd on virtually every issue? you can't convince anybody you're not a fanboy when you are . been here since '10.

[The Big Dunn]

i asked you to use your own mouth and ask me if you wanted me to say that duran would lose to floyd if he was out of shape, and you refused . then you asked me to go through the thread and find what you wrote like i don't have anything better to do

you wanted to know if duran would lose to floyd if he was out of shape, and to that i ask "who the f#ck wants to know about a fantasy fight where one dude is out of shape?" a fanboy who wants to hear "floyd would beat duran" from the mouth of an unbiased, expert on history and the career of roberto duran.

what is this "best nifhg worst night" crap? in and out of shape is the discussion.

in shape duran beats floyd. you took 3 pages to ask me if out of shape duran loses to floyd, and i told oyu he did. who f#cking cares? do you need to hang your hat on a win over a dude who wasn't in shape?


in shape duran beat up ray leonard early on, and leonard had to turn into an animal to make it an even fight. duran was all he could handle. lesser fighters have gotten floyd to the ropes. much, much lesser fighters. he'd never fought anybody close to having duran's combination of skills, power, and chin.


duran fought leonard, who has longer arms than floyd, more power, a better chin, and was physically stronger. and he did a lot of damage to him and beat him decisively. when people talk about why duran beats floyd, they can look to actual fights. when people talk about floyd beating duran they cannot. what fights are you basing your opinion?


and don't you think it's a bit funny that you pick floyd to win virtually every fantasy fight, side with floyd on virtually every issue? you can't convince anybody you're not a fanboy when you are . been here since '10.

no I didn't. My first post was a few words-what about the duran that fought Laing and Dejesus? Instead of answering, you long form deflected as you so often do.

That was one fight. As you said-SRL lost early and had to do what he did. IMO, Floyd would fight duran like SRL did in the 2nd fight, the fight which duran quit. I can easily see young Floyd (you know the one with the KO's, not Maidan a37 yr old Floyd) ****ing him from distance, moving, and making duran miss frequently. Then again, duran may be unprofessional and not care, not come in shape and Floyd may just KHTFO.

Duran, your excuses notwithstanding, lost to laing, Dejesus, benitez-all had a longer reach, just like Floyd. (not that duran never beat a guy with longer reach). I think having a reach advantage is the best way, maybe the only way, to beat young, prime duran.

I pick Floyd in certain fights because he is one of the greatest boxers I have ever seen since I started watching the sport. You can disagree, that's fine.

[Ham Porter]

I can't picture Floyd losing to ANY fighter from ANY era p4p skills wise. Does that make me a fan boy doe?

It's not exactly difficult to picture considering the amount of people (including his own backers on HBO back in the day) who thought he got a gift in the first fight with Castillo. Sure he beat him more convincingly in the rematch (even that was a competitive 8-4 type of decision) but that doesn't erase what happened in the first fight.

And while Castillo was very good, he was essentially a poor mans Chavez at the end of the day.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

It's not exactly difficult to picture considering the amount of people (including his own backers on HBO back in the day) who thought he got a gift in the first fight with Castillo. Sure he beat him more convincingly in the rematch (even that was a competitive 8-4 type of decision) but that doesn't erase what happened in the first fight.

And while Castillo was very good, he was essentially a poor mans Chavez at the end of the day.

Point taken. You could essentially take any fighter from history and do the same. If you take into account prime Boxing skills it's tough!

[Ray*]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda...

[pvj]

Exactly. The more you point out the Kirkland Laing level performances on his resume, the more they brag about the 'Duran of Montreal'.

Hilarious.

Yeah, but part of durans mystique is he had a history of doing a lot of drinking, eating and womening in between fights. He got away with it in his younger years, by his late 20s he was damn near chubby in between fights. SRL used this to his advantage the 2nd time and has admitted such, actually a pretty cool story.

For me it's a matchup thing. I actually thing floyd is a greater fighter pound for pound than pernell. But I don't think duran beats pernell, he loses a decision. Floyd is just turned susceptible to the ropes at times and a prime, in shape duran was monster when fighters touched the ropes, perhaps Noone better.