At this point I don't think Ward can beat Krusher.

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  • kilojay505
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    #101
    I see the Krusher band wagon is getting full standing room only lol how many of these same fans were fans a yr ago? ward vs kovalev would be a great fight i hope to see it happen SOON!

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #102
      Originally posted by stuff jones
      That's a ****ty way to analyze the skills of a fighter. Just watch him fight. He's got some skills.
      Ok, so who is the best opponent he has displayed these skills against?

      Oh, nobody. Awesome. I remember when people thought Adrien Broner was the next big thing because he was putting his awesome "skills" on display against fighters who weren't very good. Then, when he stepped up against a higher caliber opponent, he got exposed as being nothing more than a loudmouth who was directed by good management.

      So again, what is SB best win?

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      • deanrw
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        #103
        It is really weird. When I saw crusher about 3 years ago I thought he looked too robotic and would not go too far. How wrong was I? LOL He still looks robotic to me though, but he can definitely thread a needle with those power shots and move. He is no one trick pony.

        If Ward does fight him it was be a rough night. When you have Kovalev type power any mistake an opponent makes can have them visit the canvas. When you know you have to go rounds against him you are eventually going to be tasting his power as he also has skills to land it. The guys who probably stands the best chance against him are Beterbiev and Stevenson, as they have the type of power that could get him out early before he gets his own power landing.
        Last edited by deanrw; 01-31-2016, 01:27 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
          What is wards best win above 168?

          Now compare that to Kovalevs. It gets even muddier for ward when you realize hes already past his best days whereas Serg is right in the middle of his.
          What was Roy Jones Jr's best win above Light Heavyweight before he beat Ruiz at Heavyweight?

          What was Thomas Hearn's best win above Super Middleweight before he beat Virgil Hill for the Light Heavyweight crown?

          Hopkins at aged 49 took Kovalev 12 rounds, while admittedly taking a real beating.

          Andre Ward is 31 and hasn't taken much punishment in his career. He has one of the best defences in boxing and is an very accurate offence.

          No doubt Kovalev starts favourite if the fight happens, but I will back Ward to win a close decision.

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            #105
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            S.O.G has to many tools for Kovalev. I dont see what ya'll see the KOs are nice but wins over Old man Bhop Pascal and Cleverly dont impress me. Now look at Wards resume and think about that for a minute.
            They were impressive man, the way he did it too. I mean sure we saw Fonfora give Clev a beat down too afterward, and we saw Grachev already KO Sillakh, but we've never seen B-Hop and Pascal get a beatdown like that, ever. Hopkins beat Pascal in competitive fights. And Jones and Dawson outboxed Hopkins. But beatdowns like that, we've never seen that. They were definitely impressive.

            Now I can say the same for Ward too, we've never seen anyone beat up Froch or beat him handily. He may have been outboxed by Dirrell but that's it, Ward certainly was the only fighter to really beat Froch. Kessler has only been beaten by two other SMW great Froch and Calzaghe.

            I think that both of these guys are great, and it's a 55-45 fight leaning towards Ward by decision.

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              #106
              Originally posted by JStill Unbiased
              If the skills are still there, Ward will be fine. His transition to 185, I suspect will be smooth due to the fact that guy walks around at about 180-190. Ward by 12 RD UD in a very clear victory.

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                #107
                I have to see Ward's next fight before I can give a clear assessment.

                With his high ring IQ, hard training, youth, and defensive skills, we can expect him to go the full 12 rounds. I don't know if he has the firepower to compete with Kovalev. He'll be pushed out of his regular game, he'll need to adapt.

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                • Raonic
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                  #108
                  Is there a reason so many people keep rewarding Ward despite doing absolutely nothing in like 4 years?

                  We may as well recognize Joe Calzaghe as the #1 LHW right now if we are going to give Ward the same benefit of the doubt.

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                  • cork
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Raonic
                    Is there a reason so many people keep rewarding Ward despite doing absolutely nothing in like 4 years?

                    We may as well recognize Joe Calzaghe as the #1 LHW right now if we are going to give Ward the same benefit of the doubt.
                    No one rewards him. They just respect his skill. He's had one of the best defense I've seen from any division before but it's impossible to know how he looks now.

                    People seem to hype up kov too much I think. Not sure why people went all crazy about this fight. Pascal basically balled up after 3 rounds. Only way I see kov winning is he have to be a lot stronger then ward and have body shots affect ward movement or wards just gonna clinch weave and avoid getting hit all day because I think kov hand speed is too slow.

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                    • alexguiness
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                      #110
                      Ward is just too inactive, he is highly skilled and would neutralize a lot of Kovalevs work but I think he would catch something big in the middle rounds.

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