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  • #11
    - Great fighter, not sure he is hall of fame worthy.

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    • #12
      No... But he is worthy over other fighters who have got in. His wins over Pavlik, Chavez and Williams are great wins against good opposition considering he was the much smaller man in all 3 fights. His reign was very short but considering his short Amatuer career and injuries; Sergio Marteniz made what was given to him, applied it to boxing late and did great things.

      Sergio remains one of my favorite of the time he was around. I still believe a healthy Sergio would put a beating on Cotto.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BigAlexSand View Post
        No... But he is worthy over other fighters who have got in. His wins over Pavlik, Chavez and Williams are great wins against good opposition considering he was the much smaller man in all 3 fights. His reign was very short but considering his short Amatuer career and injuries; Sergio Marteniz made what was given to him, applied it to boxing late and did great things.

        Sergio remains one of my favorite of the time he was around. I still believe a healthy Sergio would put a beating on Cotto.
        At the time he fought chavez and before he wouldve stopped Cotto....win his leg went, so did his abilty to be Marvelous

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        • #14
          Well if Gatti got in...

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          • #15
            I think he was a hall of fame talent who perservered through all the bad in boxing (decisions, politics, etc). In a sense, he had an extremely satisfying career to follow as a fan because he earned it the hard way. He fought in a division (not his own) where he was outsized every fight due to fighting in this age where the best don't necessarily want to fight the best. He was a top 5 p4p fighter who had to constantly prove himself to everyone and was disrespected as a fighter and champion. His "reign" was short and under normal circumstances I'd maybe lean towards his career not being long enough at the top level but as we're coming into this age of GGG and/or Canelo you can start to see his quality. He's the best middleweight champ we've seen in a long time if you really think about it. It's been YEARS already and as we reflect back, there are a lot of undeserving men who've held the titles but we can all be in agreement he was not one of them. He was without a shadow of a doubt the one who held the torch and he did it with heart, class and avoided no one. Short as it may have been, I think that speaks volumes of a fighter in this age, in one of the most storied divisions ever. If Gatti can get in then why shouldn't one of the guys who if you made a timeline of 160, he'd take up a small chunk of it as being the undisputed king of it? Guys like Quillin, Lee, BJS, Lemiux, etc are what the average belt holder looks like. Let that sink in. If they're champions, guys like Martinez could only be called "super" champions if we judge by quality.

            There wasn't a single soul brave enough to come up to 154 while he was lurking...as soon as he left, even Pacquiao manned up. None of the 154 guys dared challenge him at 160 either. I remember watching Roach as he helplessly told the cameras mid fight that Sergio was just too damn fast, he could do nothing but watch his gigantic JCC Jr fight a real talent.

            Like someone said, the way the HOF is he deserves it with flying colors. The way it should be? I'm not so sure. Unlike Gatti (no disrespect to Gatti, I was a huge fan) he didn't leave his mark in boxing for being just an exciting fighter but for his actual quality.

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            • #16
              Being in the HoF doesn't mean **** anymore. It's become more watered down than Kool-Aid at a kid's birthday party.
              Last edited by VG_Addict; 01-29-2016, 04:26 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by RA-Box View Post
                Yes, for the Hall of Fame as it is.

                No, for the Hall of Fame as it should be.


                this on the nose.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  At the time he fought chavez and before he wouldve stopped Cotto....win his leg went, so did his abilty to be Marvelous
                  Before Chavez without a doubt. Sergio wasn't the same since, his knees were gone. The man had a extensive soccer/football background which was probably the driving force to his bad knees. Also rigorous training, he went all out before , , after fights to keep in shape and stayed prepared. If his legs stayed good, a GGG fight in my eyes would have been Great... Sergio had the speed and footwork to cause GGG a lot of issues but he also was open for big punchs.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                    Vote and discuss
                    I voted no. I think he is border line and might make it. He is better than some of the very average boxers who somehow got in the hall. He never beat anyone that good. Pavlic was fighting poorly at the time he lost to Martinez. He was a poor middleweight champ who fought weak challengers with the exception of Murray who really beat him but got robbed in Argentina. He ducked his rightful number one challenger GGG for years. GGG, a real future hall of famer never lost a single round to the same Murray who gave Martinez so much trouble. Martinez will probably end up in the hall of fame because the standards just aren't very high. I think he comes up just short of making it. I'd give the spot to Cotto who I think deserves it more although Cotto was also a poor middleweight champion. Cotto's overall record and his body of work is somewhat better.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      I voted no...but if I compared him to the resume Gatti, Mcguigan and Manicini have an they got in, Maravilla should be first ballot lol
                      Don't ever put Sergio in the same sentence as the great Arturo Gatti.

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