Waddell investment down to the last 82M? OUT of (521M)

[PKing]

Lance Pugmure takes a look at some of the numbers:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-al-haymon-boxing-20160203-story.html

Al Haymon is spending to put boxing on TV, but do the numbers add up?

A look at 10 major and minor Premier boxing shows staged in California and Nevada last year reveals that promoters paid $19.2 million in purses and state fees for those fight cards, while collecting only $3.9 million from fans at the gate, according to the states' records.

For last month's Garcia-Guerrero fight in Los Angeles, the fight card's purse totaled $3.2 million, versus only $508,620 in live-gate ticket sales.

Television advertising tracking firm Kantar Media said Premier collected $12.5 million in total ad revenue from 27 fight telecasts from March through September, an average of $462,963 per show. Premier also pocketed some undisclosed license fees from Spike TV for six fight shows telecast during that period.

Damn!!! PBC is in better shape than I thought. I figured they were taking even bigger losses and lesser revenue.

The fact that Spike is paying for the PBC and it's not a time buy is huge as well. Good work Pug!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

And HBO only has 17 dates a year with a budget that is shrinking... so the options are extremely limited.

Yes, but I'm pretty sure hbo would find room for broner, garcia, etc.. The guys that a "name" fighters will find a spot.. And it will probably take away future spots from the "foreign import" fighters like roman, Povetkin, uchiyama, fury.. Probably only sergey, canelo, and ggg would be guaranteed spots. The rest will go to whoever has the biggest name and in the US khan or danny or broner is going to be bigger than roman gonzalez

[PKing]

Yes, but I'm pretty sure hbo would find room for broner, garcia, etc.. The guys that a "name" fighters will find a spot.. And it will probably take away future spots from the "foreign import" fighters like roman, Povetkin, uchiyama, fury.. Probably only sergey, canelo, and ggg would be guaranteed spots. The rest will go to whoever has the biggest name and in the US khan or danny or broner is going to be bigger than roman gonzalez

You're saying that HBO's boxing budget would increase for guys like Broner and Garcia (obviously guys Haymon would keep)? Based on what analysis?

If anything HBO doesn't care about boxing since it brings no money compared to their original programming series.

[MrRolltide91]

Those leagues have been around forever, and they have huge followings. PBC is still in its infancy.. They can be on multiple channels eventually but first they have to actually build and grow brand awareness. Just use the ufc blueprint.. They bought time slots on foxsports, showed they had a growing audience, then spikeTV gave them an actual TV deal.. Then UFC signed a huge deal with fox, and spikeTV went out and bought bellator to replace ufc programming..
You don't need to be on a ton of networks to start a bidding war.. All the networks will see the ratings, and if you show you have a solid and growing audience, a bidding war will happen if your highly coveted. SpikeTV every Saturday night would have been ideal, because they already have a bunch of combat sports fans watching Friday's for bellator and kickboxing,, those shows could be used to hype Saturday's boxing show.. Combat sports fans will watch boxing if they know when and where. Boxing gets no mainstream coverage, so casual fans have no idea when/where boxing is.

Good points...

[aldo5408]

Lance Pugmure takes a look at some of the numbers:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-al-haymon-boxing-20160203-story.html

Al Haymon is spending to put boxing on TV, but do the numbers add up?

A look at 10 major and minor Premier boxing shows staged in California and Nevada last year reveals that promoters paid $19.2 million in purses and state fees for those fight cards, while collecting only $3.9 million from fans at the gate, according to the states' records.

For last month's Garcia-Guerrero fight in Los Angeles, the fight card's purse totaled $3.2 million, versus only $508,620 in live-gate ticket sales.

Television advertising tracking firm Kantar Media said Premier collected $12.5 million in total ad revenue from 27 fight telecasts from March through September, an average of $462,963 per show. Premier also pocketed some undisclosed license fees from Spike TV for six fight shows telecast during that period.

Still, the advertising revenue for the boxing shows is paltry considering the costs, such as Premier's $20-million NBC deal. The ad money also appears to fall short for even lesser time-buy arrangements, like the five CBS Saturday afternoon boxing telecasts in 2015 that cost Premier around $300,000 per hour, according to industry officials

Damn only avg 480k on spike I thought it was better

[PKing]

Damn only avg 480k on spike I thought it was better

As long as Spik's president is happy and continues paying 7 figures for PBC events... Haymon is looking to be in a very solid position.

[El-blanco]

Damn!!! PBC is in better shape than I thought. I figured they were taking even bigger losses and lesser revenue.

The fact that Spike is paying for the PBC and it's not a time buy is huge as well. Good work Pug!

Pug said the model isn't working. You and Imdazed have **** math skills and clearly can't read. Either that or you're so pathetic you ignore the evidence. The latter seems more likely.

[HeroBando]

As long as Spik's president is happy and continues paying 7 figures for PBC events... Haymon is looking to be in a very solid position.

They should get in touch with the Fnf folks. Get same ratings for 20x less

[PKing]

Pug said the model isn't working. You and Imdazed have **** math skills and clearly can't read. Either that or you're so pathetic you ignore the evidence. The latter seems more likely.

Spike pays PBC seven figures... something is working lol

[Deevel916]

Damn!!! PBC is in better shape than I thought. I figured they were taking even bigger losses and lesser revenue.

The fact that Spike is paying for the PBC and it's not a time buy is huge as well. Good work Pug!

That's what you gathered from that article? LOL. Did you even read it? It breaks down how PBC has been a financial disaster thus far.