IBF gives Golovkin a mandatory and now Lara speaks!

[DoktorSleepless]

As I said, not a single fuck was given. Be like Fury.

"Everyone knows I'm the number one heavyweight on the planet. They can take all of their belts if they want - WBO, WBA, IBO and the Ring magazine," he said.

"They can give them to Fred Flintstone, Joe Bloggs, Superman or Batman for all I care. It doesn't matter what they do as it won't take away what I am.

"I'm still the best heavyweight boxer in the world.

Also, in Fury's case, he had just beaten the undisdputed No1 and lineal HW champ. The IBF belt wasn't as important to him as it is to Golovkin.

Yes, Fury is being defined by what he has accomplished, not by the belts. Golovkin keeping the the belts won't change who he is. If he's fighting Canelo next, the IBF belt is not important whatsoever. The same way the MW IBF belt has been completely irrelevant for the past 10 years. And if doesn't get Canelo, beating Lara in a way Canelo couldn't get close to will certainly undisputedly seal him as the the best middleweight boxer in the world. Fighting Wade and keeping his belt will do squat shit for him.

[ИATAS]

What about the last part of the post? who should GGG fight instead, given Johnson is hurt and Saunders said no?Would you as a fan prefer Wade, NDjam or Lara? someone else?

Who should he fight? This is a mandatory, so if Golovkin wants to keep his belt he's got to fight Wade. I want him to fight Canelo that's what I want. Next after that would be either Jacobs or Saunders. After that it's all pretty much the same to me (as far as guys like Ndam & Lara go).

At the end of the day GGG fans only want to focus on the guys wont fight GGG" part and not the "who does GGG pick when he doesn't get the fight he wants" part.

Again this is a mandatory situation, not a voluntary. This wasn't Golovkin's first, second or even third choice. It's not even a choice (unless they are cool with being stripped).

I also disagree with your statement here. When Golovkin burst onto the scene in 2012, GGG fans wanted him to fight Martinez, Murray, Geale, Macklin, Quillin and a couple others here and there, i.e the best middleweights. He's gone after all of them, fought the ones who were willing and the only bad fights he took were stay busy fights in Ishida & Adama, both fights overseas between bigger fights (or you can throw in his second HBO fight with Rosado if you'd like just because Rosado was just moving up to 160, although personally I didn't mind it for what it was). All things considered he's done a good job at fighting the top 10 and going after all the title holders. It's also kinda hard not to focus on the big names who he couldn't fight given the amount of daily "Golovkin only fights bums doe" threads/posts on NSB.

[ИATAS]

As I said, not a single fuck was given. Be like Fury.

"Everyone knows I'm the number one heavyweight on the planet. They can take all of their belts if they want - WBO, WBA, IBO and the Ring magazine," he said.

"They can give them to Fred Flintstone, Joe Bloggs, Superman or Batman for all I care. It doesn't matter what they do as it won't take away what I am.

"I'm still the best heavyweight boxer in the world.



Yes, Fury is being defined by what he has accomplished, not by the belts. Golovkin keeping the the belts won't change who he is. If he's fighting Canelo next, the IBF belt is not important whatsoever. The same way the MW IBF belt has been completely irrelevant for the past 10 years. And if doesn't get Canelo, beating Lara in a way Canelo couldn't get close to will certainly undisputedly seal him as the the best middleweight boxer in the world. Fighting Wade and keeping his belt will do squat shit for him.

Tell Bernard Hopkins the IBF belt was irrelevant. It's immensely valuable to some fighters and not valuable at all to others. Every fighter, every champion has their own path, their own accomplishments, their own self worth, their own goals, and each is unique in their own ways. What's not important to one fighter means the world to another.

Besides, do us fans really want another middleweight champion? The boxing world was pretty upset at Fury being stripped and how some bum owns 1/4th of the world titles. You want Wade vs Hassan N'Dam for the IBF middleweight title? I sure as hell don't. The less champions the better (everyone always says that so why doesn't it apply here?). If it means Golovkin has to fight some weak ass mandatory, just like Hopkins had to before him both at MW and LHW, like Kovalev had to recently and so on. Until the IBF updates their ranking system some how it is what it is.

[SilverMiles]

As I said, not a single fuck was given. Be like Fury.

"Everyone knows I'm the number one heavyweight on the planet. They can take all of their belts if they want - WBO, WBA, IBO and the Ring magazine," he said.

"They can give them to Fred Flintstone, Joe Bloggs, Superman or Batman for all I care. It doesn't matter what they do as it won't take away what I am.

"I'm still the best heavyweight boxer in the world.



Yes, Fury is being defined by what he has accomplished, not by the belts. Golovkin keeping the the belts won't change who he is. If he's fighting Canelo next, the IBF belt is not important whatsoever. The same way the MW IBF belt has been completely irrelevant for the past 10 years. And if doesn't get Canelo, beating Lara in a way Canelo couldn't get close to will certainly undisputedly seal him as the the best middleweight boxer in the world. Fighting Wade and keeping his belt will do squat shit for him.

Fury would have Fought Glaskov if not for his legally binding rematch clause against Wlad. The situations are nothing alike but you keep bringing it up.

[mathed]

And posters say that GGG is ducking Lara. This punk chump wasn't calling out GGG like he was Canelo but as soon as he is tied up, Lara crawls out from the woodwork to play big man.

GGG's team should call his bluff NOW!

[imperial1]

stop with the bs excuses. lil'g doesn't have a fight signed right now, Lara doesn't have a fight signed right now.....

what exactly is the problem with making this fight?

That's exactly what I'm saying his fans need to stop defending this guy !

[Beercules]

Really?

Who is the better fighter Lara, Wade or Monroe jr.?

You are missing the point completely. The IBF just stripped Fury ffs.


Golovkin has to fight his mandatory, which is now Wade or he will lose his belt.


Really not that hard to grasp.

[kafkod]

As I said, not a single fuck was given. Be like Fury.

"Everyone knows I'm the number one heavyweight on the planet. They can take all of their belts if they want - WBO, WBA, IBO and the Ring magazine," he said.

"They can give them to Fred Flintstone, Joe Bloggs, Superman or Batman for all I care. It doesn't matter what they do as it won't take away what I am.

"I'm still the best heavyweight boxer in the world.


Yes, Fury is being defined by what he has accomplished, not by the belts. Golovkin keeping the the belts won't change who he is. If he's fighting Canelo next, the IBF belt is not important whatsoever. The same way the MW IBF belt has been completely irrelevant for the past 10 years. And if doesn't get Canelo, beating Lara in a way Canelo couldn't get close to will certainly undisputedly seal him as the the best middleweight boxer in the world. Fighting Wade and keeping his belt will do squat shit for him.

Your argument has more holes in it than a lump of Swiss cheese.

First point, Fury didn't give up the IBF belt voluntarily, he was stripped of it because he had a rematch clause with Wlad and Duva called for an immediate purse bid re Glazkov.

Of course he stuck 2 fingers up to the IBF afterwards, and sounded off about not needing the belt anyway. What would you expect from Fury?

Second, as you say, Fury is defined by his accomplishments, which is exactly what I was saying in my post.

What Fury accomplished was to win 3 world title belts, plus the ring lineal, in a high profile fight with one of the best known boxers in the world.

GGG hasn't accomplished anything like that and doesn't have the global recognition that Fury now has.

Third, if belts don't matter, why did Cotto pay GGG nearly $1million step aside money so he could go into the negotiations with Canelo as WBC champion?

And why, if Canelo doesn't want to fight GGG at 160, doesn't he relinquish the WBC belt instead of doing everything in his power to hang on to it for as long as possible?

Fourth, you are criticising Golovkin with this "belts don't matter" argument, but ignoring the fact that the only reason Wade comes into the equation now is that Canelo, apparantly, doesn't want to risk losing his belt by defending it against GGG, and doesn't want to let go of it either.

[kafkod]

You are missing the point completely. The IBF just stripped Fury ffs.


Golovkin has to fight his mandatory, which is now Wade or he will lose his belt.


Really not that hard to grasp.

It seems to be very, very difficult indeed for some people.

[eco1]

If lara is such an easy win for big bad GGG. Why doesnt GGG just fight him then and get his name on his resume, it would sure be a better name that monroe or lemeuix.

i said:

As a GGG fan i want GGG to fight Lara and KO him.
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