Debunking the PBC fighters can't fight on HBO Theory Myth and GGG's HBO contract

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  • Chollo Vista
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    #121
    Originally posted by killakali
    one of the key elements of your argument that the pbc is like the ufc is because the ufc "is on nbc, versus, espn, fox, fox sports" when the truth is they are only on the fox family. That isn't semantics. That is getting owned. I showed you all the ways UFC is different. Just accept it and go to sleep
    Sure thing, bud. Whatever you say.

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    • killakali
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      #122
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
      Ok, you keep saying game over, but why are you still talking to me?

      Get outta here man. You're painfully annoying like a child.
      just agree with Dana that while PBC has similarities they don't have the UFC biz model.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        You do realize that HBO directed Duva to ask Beterbiev to fight on HBO. Haymon wasn't the reason why the fight didn't happen. It was because Beterbiev only had 9 fights.
        I can't speculate on behind the scene activities of fights that didn't happen, all I know is outside of Floyd vs Manny no Haymon fighter fought on HBO in awhile. You can speculate on whatever you wanna speculate on, but the facts, Haymon guys haven't fought on HBO in awhile, remain as is.

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          #124
          Originally posted by original zero
          Why would Haymon end it? Makes no sense. It's working. Why would he abandon his plan now?

          All of HBO's top fighters . . . Haymon has most of the opponents locked up. He'll keep choking HBO slowly until HBO gives up years down the line.

          Why would Haymon cave now?
          You're under some false (imo) assumption HBO & PBC can't co-exist or even work together.

          I've been suggesting for awhile that there easily could be a PBC on Showtime show (officially, there is already these unofficial shows). I don't see why there couldn't be PBC on HBO at some point. Granted its not the most likely outcome, but I don't think its not something that could be in Haymon's plans or potential plans.

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            #125
            Originally posted by killakali
            just agree with Dana that while PBC has similarities they don't have the UFC biz model.
            I'm not agreeing with anything.

            The PBC has a similar business model to that of the UFC.

            Oh yeah, BTW, the UFC has done business with more than one network in case you didn't know.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              I can't speculate on behind the scene activities of fights that didn't happen, all I know is outside of Floyd vs Manny no Haymon fighter fought on HBO in awhile. You can speculate on whatever you wanna speculate on, but the facts, Haymon guys haven't fought on HBO in awhile, remain as is.
              I'm not speculating. Just quoting Beterbiev's manager on why they passed on the fight. Nothing to do with network issues. More to do with Artur having 9 fights.

              But the main point is HBO offered a Haymon fighter a fight.

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              • killakali
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                #127
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                I'm not agreeing with anything.

                The PBC has a similar business model to that of the UFC.

                Oh yeah, BTW, the UFC has done business with more than one network in case you didn't know.
                no shiet sherlock. The article i pasted said they terminated with Spike to go to Fox. Every boxing promoter in the states has done business with more than one network. smh. wow you really are amazing.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  no shiet sherlock. The article i pasted said they terminated with Spike to go to Fox. Every boxing promoter in the states has done business with more than one network. smh. wow you really are amazing.
                  Well, according to you, they only did business with one network, which was a lie.

                  Spike, NBC, FOX and ESPN. Should I go on?

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                    Well, according to you, they only did business with one network, which was a lie.

                    Spike, NBC, FOX and ESPN. Should I go on?
                    ******, according to me "They only do business with one family of networks" I never said they have only done business with one network ever. You are the one who said they do business currently with Fox, Fox2, FS1, FX, NBC, ESPN and Versus lolololololol

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      i don't think haymon will let his guys fight on hbo. why would he? he has so many outlets and hes trying to destroy hbo. why would he want to provide them with content?
                      I think its a valid suggestion that Haymon could be the guilty party here & I'm even a guy who gets into the mode of saying "HBO banned Haymon" when the reality could be Haymon decided to make a fighter exodus from HBO. I don't think we got enough info to judge this tbh so we all just tend to say the narrative we like better or see as the most likely situation I think.

                      And I don't think Haymon is trying to destroy HBO. I think he's trying to compete with them sure, but destroy them is a bit much.

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