Comments Thread For: Joshua-Takam IBF Eliminator For Charles Martin Shot Looms

[Fury4daWIN]

I totally disagree.

In fact I think Whyte would beat the crap out of him.

Based on what? Takam beat Thompson, drew with Perez and gave Povetkin a war. Whyte hasn't fought anyone on that level, unless you count Joshua himself who, aside from the second round, smashed him up. Whyte isn't an especially impressive looking fighter on the eye test, so it's hard to make a case for him that isn't resume based.

[LacedUp]

Based on what? Takam beat Thompson, drew with Perez and gave Povetkin a war. Whyte hasn't fought anyone on that level, unless you count Joshua himself who, aside from the second round, smashed him up. Whyte isn't an especially impressive looking fighter on the eye test, so it's hard to make a case for him that isn't resume based.

Beating Thompson? So what? He stinks. He drew with a fat and out of shape Perez who was mentally scarred and didn't exactly look good. Besides, Perez isn't special anyway.

I rate Dillian Whyte's intensity over Takam, and his technical ability to fight behind the jab and come in over the top with the right hand. I think he hits harder also and he's also bigger.

Of course I can't say DWs resume is better, but I would honestly pick him to beat Takam who I think is dead average in every department.

[Tobi.G]

I dont like it. Joshua needs more practise.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Beating Thompson? So what? He stinks. He drew with a fat and out of shape Perez who was mentally scarred and didn't exactly look good. Besides, Perez isn't special anyway.

I rate Dillian Whyte's intensity over Takam, and his technical ability to fight behind the jab and come in over the top with the right hand. I think he hits harder also and he's also bigger.

Of course I can't say DWs resume is better, but I would honestly pick him to beat Takam who I think is dead average in every department.

Your British biases reek of boiled ham.

[Box-Office]

WBC take forever to sort out and enforce mandatories. Look at the situation with their belt at 160, their 'tournament' nonsense at 154, 147, how long they have fucked around with Wilder-Povetkin. Do you actually follow real boxing or just Amir Khan? The WBC haven't even sorted out their current mandatory situation at HW, let alone begin to look at eliminators for a new one, which would take 2 years for them to actually sort out if not more knowing them. Then you have the IBF who are actually sorting out a new mandatory right now, want Joshua involved, and who have shown they will enforce mandatories. And you think he should go the WBC route

And your view is motivated by what, being a Wilder fan? Disliking Joshua? The fact that Hearn promotes Brook, who Khan has been ducking for years? I'm guessing it's the Khan-Brook-Hearn thing.

So, from our last exchange you've learned you were wrong, when you assumed I meant Joshua should go call out Wilder right now, progress.



WBC "route" is NOT a synonym for mandatory. The end game is a shot at the WBC title. So, may be down the line a voluntary comes up, never know. I mean after all Wilder won't last 3 in September, 2015 and the chances of that would only improve as Anthony progresses more right? Again, IBF is the logical route, but if they do take it and then to say Wilder won't last 3, pure cringe.



You keep bringing up Khan for some reason.


Ducking for years? Last year, yes, but YEARS? and to back Brook over Khan despite Kell's resume outside of Porter. hmmm what is motivating your view? What is getting sand in your vag? Cuz he isn't indigenous English? or his faith? I can play this as well, best if you stay on subject next time.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Joshua should take the shot

[Fury4daWIN]

Beating Thompson? So what? He stinks. He drew with a fat and out of shape Perez who was mentally scarred and didn't exactly look good. Besides, Perez isn't special anyway.

I rate Dillian Whyte's intensity over Takam, and his technical ability to fight behind the jab and come in over the top with the right hand. I think he hits harder also and he's also bigger.

Of course I can't say DWs resume is better, but I would honestly pick him to beat Takam who I think is dead average in every department.

The trouble with criticising Takam is that it automatically shits on most of the current heavyweight division. Take Thompson, who's been the division's gatekeeper for years and has never, besides Wlad, given anyone an easy night's work. Takam beat him wide. Then there's Perez, who nearly drew with Jennings who himself gave Wlad a very competitive fight and took out Szpilka with far more ease that Wilder was able to do. Takam had a case for winning that fight. And then there's Povetkin who had one of the best resumes in the sport and is, in many people's eyes, in the top three of the division. Takam gave him fits, and hurt him multiple times. Average fighter? Hardly.

Now Whyte might well look more impressive taking out his opponents, but then his opponents aren't Thompson, Perez or Povetkin, so it's kind of irrelevant anyway. His best opponent to date absolutely brutalised him, and Joshua isn't really a known quantity himself. If Whyte ever beats Takam then your point stands, but until then you're just wildly speculating with nothing to back it up but how he fights well behind a jab and comes in over the top with his right hand. Hardly much of a case, all things considered.

[Clegg]

So, from our last exchange you've learned you were wrong, when you assumed I meant Joshua should go call out Wilder right now, progress.



WBC "route" is NOT a synonym for mandatory. The end game is a shot at the WBC title. So, down the line a voluntary comes up, I mean after all he won't last 3 in September, 2015 and the chances of that would only improve as Anthony progresses more right? Again, IBF is the logical route, but if they do take it and then to say Wilder won't last 3, pure cringe.

Lol at your bold, child. Not sure what you think you proved or disproved, the fact still is that passing up this eliminator in order to target Wilder is still something that could leave him with no shot at anyone, there is no guarantee Wilder chooses to make his next voluntary against Joshua. We know how things are in boxing when it comes to people fighting 'down the line', and we know how often fight negotiations fall apart, even in cases where both guys want the fight. What if Hearn said that because he thinks Wilder is a bit ****, and he now expects Povetkin to beat Wilder? Why give up an IBF shot only for that to happen?

Anyway, my point is not to defend Hearn's promotional boasts, Hearn is an annoying twat, but it doesn't change the fact that going the IBF route is the right choice here whatever way you look at it, even if Joshua can beat Wilder at this point.

You keep bringing up Khan for some reason.


Ducking for years? Last year, yes, but YEARS? hmmm what is motivating your view? What is getting sand in your vag? Cuz he isn't indigenous English? or his faith? I can play this as well, best if you stay on subject next time.

My view is Khan should've fought Brook even before he even had a title, but certainly once he beat Porter. I consider it a duck because he looked at Brook and saw someone he wasn't so sure he could beat, and decided to try and come up with as many unconvincing pussy excuses as possible and target less threats instead, and that has gone on for more than 2 years now. The indigenous Q is weak, my favourite active fighter is a different race and nationality to me. Even weaker considering you wouldn't support Khan so scrotum-exhaustingly hard if he wasn't from the same background as yourself. Going back and forth like this is fine, unless we start threatening to fight in real life, in which case we can meet at ukbox's gym or his dad's house

[Box-Office]

Lol at your bold, child. Not sure what you think you proved or disproved, the fact still is that passing up this eliminator in order to target Wilder is still something that could leave him with no shot at anyone, there is no guarantee Wilder chooses to make his next voluntary against Joshua. We know how things are in boxing when it comes to people fighting 'down the line', and we know how often fight negotiations fall apart, even in cases where both guys want the fight. What if Hearn said that because he thinks Wilder is a bit ****, and he now expects Povetkin to beat Wilder? Why give up an IBF shot only for that to happen?

Anyway, my point is not to defend Hearn's promotional boasts, Hearn is an annoying twat, but it doesn't change the fact that going the IBF route is the right choice here whatever way you look at it, even if Joshua can beat Wilder at this point.

Joshua is headlining PPV and doing good #s from what I heard in British title fights, I doubt he'll ever be out of the loop. Look at Sturm for instance, off the top of my head. Overall, I was basically laughing at Hearn's claim than anything else.

My view is Khan should've fought Brook even before he even had a title, but certainly once he beat Porter. I consider it a duck because he looked at Brook and saw someone he wasn't so sure he could beat, and decided to try and come up with as many unconvincing pussy excuses as possible and target less threats instead, and that has gone on for more than 2 years now. The indigenous Q is weak, my favourite active fighter is a different race and nationality to me. Even weaker considering you wouldn't support Khan so scrotum-exhaustingly hard if he wasn't from the same background as yourself. Going back and forth like this is fine, unless we start threatening to fight in real life, in which case we can meet at ukbox's gym or his dad's house

We can get in to the nitty gritty in a relevant thread.


I didn't mean to get you all defensive and explain yourself. How would I know you're English? Just didn't see the point in you having a go at me despite me ignoring it the first time. I'm really bored of it after having it with Dirk for a full year as you probably read a few of those.



get the 10s out bruv

[LacedUp]

Your British biases reek of boiled ham.

Yeah. thinking Thompson sucks means I hate eastern europeans right? As you've said a few times you midget

The trouble with criticising Takam is that it automatically shits on most of the current heavyweight division. Take Thompson, who's been the division's gatekeeper for years and has never, besides Wlad, given anyone an easy night's work. Takam beat him wide. Then there's Perez, who nearly drew with Jennings who himself gave Wlad a very competitive fight and took out Szpilka with far more ease that Wilder was able to do. Takam had a case for winning that fight. And then there's Povetkin who had one of the best resumes in the sport and is, in many people's eyes, in the top three of the division. Takam gave him fits, and hurt him multiple times. Average fighter? Hardly.

Now Whyte might well look more impressive taking out his opponents, but then his opponents aren't Thompson, Perez or Povetkin, so it's kind of irrelevant anyway. His best opponent to date absolutely brutalised him, and Joshua isn't really a known quantity himself. If Whyte ever beats Takam then your point stands, but until then you're just wildly speculating with nothing to back it up but how he fights well behind a jab and comes in over the top with his right hand. Hardly much of a case, all things considered.

You are mentioning a bunch of super average fighters.? Thompson - Dead average. He's a little awkward that's it. Nothing else to speak of.

Takam and Jennings never fought, so the fact that he drew with a guy that nearly drew with another guy means jack ****. And the same with Szpilka.

You are literally saying: "If you crap on Takam, you automatically crap on Jennings and Szpilka". Because he fought a guy who fought a guy who fought a guy. Literally makes no sense.

As I said, I can't say DW has a better resume. But according to your flawed logic then if Joshua takes out Takam in less than 7 then DW is better than Takam right? Because he fought a guy who fought a guy.

Makes no sense.

I think DW is better than Takam. And I don't particularly care much for guys who've seen 1 fight with DW.