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  • #21
    Originally posted by hectari View Post
    Oscar was washed up and drained when he fought Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao was shot and damaged goods before he fought Floyd, according to Floyd he was washed up has been lol.

    Are you one of those Floyd biased unconditional lovers who said Cotto was damaged and drained when Pacquiao fought him and discredited that win, yet when Floyd fought Cotto he was not a leftover anymore and fresh?

    This why I cant take that serious, if you want to be fair which you dont you would tell Floyd your win over Manny is nothing it was 6 years too late and he was already knocked out cold and severely damaged and war torn, why only apply that discredit to Paquiao opponents and not Floyd? if you want to be fair

    The only difference here is Oscar fought both guys in their primes.
    Let's be real, Manny gets props for beating Cotto. It was Cotto who complained about dropping the 2 lbs. Now are you one of those biased unconditional Pacquiao lovers who discredit Floyd's win over Canelo because Canelo dropped 2 lbs? Floyd beat Oscar and Cotto without a catch-weight at Super WW, so he deserves his props. How is Cotto washed up when fights Floyd, but suddenly he's a beast when gets with Freddie? He barely lost to Canelo. That's some BS! Lastly, why didn't the Pacquiao fight happen 6 years earlier? Who was "scared of needles?" Who had "cuts" that weren't healed? Blame that on Bob Arum and not Floyd. When Oscar was the King, Floyd left Arum to fight the King and agreed to the King's purse, weight, date, venue, etc. All Manny had to do was agree to a 14-Day cut-off, and he could have got schooled 6 years ago. He could've left Arum, just like Oscar, Floyd, and Cotto, but he didn't, and that's on him!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
      Who? Oh you're not talking about Fraud Pedcheater Jr are you? That magic show is over and the strings, mirrors and IV's have been exposed. 45-4 great run even for a vulture but he did much better as an amateur where he lost the gold and silver medals but still managed to acquire a Bronze. He will be remembered as one of the best American Olympian Boxers of the 90's at Featherweight. even though his legacy was shamed by drug test violations and brings his entire pro record into question.
      Actually, he hasn't been shamed by drug violations, and his record is still 49-0. You might feel otherwise, but the 49-0 is on the books forever. Has Manny been shamed by the "suspect" shakes of Ariza? I don't think so. 18 years as a champion! OSCAR, COTTO, CANELO, PACQUIAO! Nothing left to prove!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        I made a ton of money on this fight. Not as much as I made on Shane/ODH, but a good bit.

        I Still laugh at anyone that actually thought ODH going down to 147 would actually beat Manny. I will take speed over size EVERY time.
        Mosley/ODH 2 took me to the CLEANERS!!!! I figured NO WAY!!! ODH was going to lose again... What hurts the most is knowing now that Mosley was juicing. That's why I give no one passes if they don't want to do strict testing. And when Pac said he was a afraid of needles even for that much $$$$$$. I was like BS!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
          the cherrypick gone wrong....Oscar shoulda just been a man of his word and fought Margarito...Karma ended Oscar's career
          ???? Cheato?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
            ???? Cheato?


            DLH said he would fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito thinking Cotto would win...when Margarito won, he looked to the other side of the world at a guy who had one fight at LW

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
              Oscar is still the best 147 fighter next to Pacquiao in my lifetime.
              14 years is not long enough to see enough .

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                Mosley/ODH 2 took me to the CLEANERS!!!! I figured NO WAY!!! ODH was going to lose again... What hurts the most is knowing now that Mosley was juicing. That's why I give no one passes if they don't want to do strict testing. And when Pac said he was a afraid of needles even for that much $$$$$$. I was like BS!
                Oscar got robbed in the rematch. Clearly beat Mosley. His daddy and Mosley both knew they lost and were shocked when the announcement came. Years later Mosley admitted to taking steroids for that fight to avoid going to jail and still somehow this wasn't changed to NC. SMH

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
                  DLH said he would fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito thinking Cotto would win...when Margarito won, he looked to the other side of the world at a guy who had one fight at LW
                  He fought Pac and then retired. And Hopkins is 1000x the boxer Cheato is! YEah fighting Hopkins for the MW titles and yet he's scared of Cheato???

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    Oscar got robbed in the rematch. Clearly beat Mosley. His daddy and Mosley both knew they lost and were shocked when the announcement came. Years later Mosley admitted to taking steroids for that fight to avoid going to jail and still somehow this wasn't changed to NC. SMH
                    Yeah! This one hurts more than most. Lost 6K on it.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                      He fought Pac and then retired. And Hopkins is 1000x the boxer Cheato is! YEah fighting Hopkins for the MW titles and yet he's scared of Cheato???


                      yes, he was...its the only reason why he went back on is word and picked on a SFW who just got to LW


                      BTW- he fought Hopkins when he was still near his prime..not towards the tail end of it


                      either way, PAC did everyone a favor by retiring his ass

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