Comments Thread For: HBO Exec on The Rise of Golovkin, Securing Top Opponents

[!! Shawn]

Maybe. A puncher's chance is a trademark in boxing. I think Kid Chocolate has heavier hands than Lee or Stevens, so how GGG would take it, I'd assume he'd feel it more than what Lemieux layed down.

I've been saying Kid, Korobov, Lee, and Jacobs are what GGG needs to face. Saunders or Heiland are other Southpaws need to be tested for GGG. I mean that's 160. Let's see what other bums K2 offers with low cash offers approved by HBO.

Chocolate heavier hands than Lee... HAHAH! Lee's hook has flattened everyone he has caught with it.

[!! Shawn]

Canelo is avoiding GGG just the same as GGG avoided Ward , they all do it and all spin a story for their fans to hold onto , its a cut throat business with lots of loose strings attached .

GGG did not avoid Ward. Ward was calling him out while taking fights at light heavy, and negotiating a showdown with Kovalev. He was just using GGG as a bargaining chip.

[Lester Tutor]

Chocolate heavier hands than Lee... HAHAH! Lee's hook has flattened everyone he has caught with it.

Chocolate nearly destroyed Lee in the 1st round, Lee barely survived the bell. Hopefully Kid can learn from Jacobs and continue to destroy a guy instead instead of retreating from the pocket.

[tiliheels]

Chavez Jr lost the mexican fans because they viewed him as a "puto." One thing mexican fans do not support is cowardice or the perception of it. You can respond to me in all caps it doesn't make your point anymore important. I'm not convincing myself of anything, those are facts. If he had vacated when he won the strap it would've been fine, people would've chalked it up to him wanting to add Cotto to his resume, holding on to the belt and then dumping it when you can't get your way in negotiations is a whole other situation. You say the title isn't important..how many people from this guy's country achieved that? You are just as spoiled an american as me, we are used to winning things and treating them like collectible trinkets. So go on and discount the meaning this has to this man, I guess Cotto overpaid Martinez for a worthless title not to become the first Puerto Rican to accomplish the feat but to just fight Sergio. I really wish you and the others who keep complaining about the guy would move on, he's focused on one thing and whatever comes after that comes. In real world terms you wouldn't quit your job if they were about to make you the boss or give you a shot to be the boss.

mexican's didnt like chavez jr bc he was gifted due to his dad, due to his work ethic, and due to him doing drugs andn ot caring about the sport...but when he fought fonfara guess wat??? THEY WERE STILL THERE IN DROVES! lol..the left him bc he quit that night and tbh they still try to support him and if he gets a title shot vs jack they'll be there for one last chance...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GGG...u are trying to convice yourself that...that is all sergio and fonfara's work

i would quit my job if the employees that worked around me determined my success but none of them were willing to work with me, but just one division up or one division down willing employees would work with me...
ITS NOT ALL HIS FAULT, BUT HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...if guys wont take 3 millino to fight you that tells you that u are not getting important bouts..if he wants to keep fighting mandos over and over again he'll get less and less popular..it is just that simple bc canelo does not need him nor will not fighting him keep any mexicans home during canelo's next trip to texas

[turnedup]

mexican's didnt like chavez jr bc he was gifted due to his dad, due to his work ethic, and due to him doing drugs andn ot caring about the sport...but when he fought fonfara guess wat??? THEY WERE STILL THERE IN DROVES! lol..the left him bc he quit that night and tbh they still try to support him and if he gets a title shot vs jack they'll be there for one last chance...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GGG...u are trying to convice yourself that...that is all sergio and fonfara's work

i would quit my job if the employees that worked around me determined my success but none of them were willing to work with me, but just one division up or one division down willing employees would work with me...
ITS NOT ALL HIS FAULT, BUT HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...if guys wont take 3 millino to fight you that tells you that u are not getting important bouts..if he wants to keep fighting mandos over and over again he'll get less and less popular..it is just that simple bc canelo does not need him nor will not fighting him keep any mexicans home during canelo's next trip to texas

Dude you really must spend no time among spanish fight fans if you believe that Junior didn't become his own entity eons ago. Spanish fight fans do not like f@ckery and Junior pulled one too many on them. Canelo is being called a puto flat out just like Cotto was for avoiding Golovkin. If you honestly don't think Canelo's stock would take a hugeeeeeeee hit over dumping his titles instead of fighting Golovkin strap up, sit back and watch it happen. Oh and on that $3 million you mentioned, if you won't get in a ring with a man over $3 million you are shook, no if's and's or buts about it. BJS, Lee, Quillin, Jacobs, have never seen it. Cotto lost to Trout for less than that, Canelo didn't make that to fight Lara...so yeah I'll side with the dude trying to get you in the ring and you make a million excuses not to face. I'll leave this here and wish you the best.

[aboutfkntime]

That was an "A-side" demand? Golovkin wanted things even terms with Ward whereas Ward seemed to think he had any power despite being a nobody at this point. 50/50 money, 50/50 weight.

YES, it was..... BOTH Loeffler and Sanchez stated the same thing.

" Loeffler feels that Golovkin is the A-side in any negotiations with Ward, which means they would expect to get a good deal from the negotiations. However, it’s a doable fight as long as Ward is..... agreeable to a 164lb catch-weight ".

http://www. boxing news 24 .com/2015...-basis-at-164/

And AGAIN, here.....

" Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation..... "

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

But, now..... now that Golovkin wants to face a real A-side opponent..... now suddenly "that A-side stuff has to stop" ?

Really ?

Because..... those are the very same shameful double-standards that cause us to laugh at the fanboys.

[aboutfkntime]

YES, it was..... BOTH Loeffler and Sanchez stated the same thing.

" Loeffler feels that Golovkin is the A-side in any negotiations with Ward, which means they would expect to get a good deal from the negotiations. However, it’s a doable fight as long as Ward is..... agreeable to a 164lb catch-weight ".

http://www. boxing news 24 .com/2015...-basis-at-164/

And AGAIN, here.....

" Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation..... "

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

But, now..... now that Golovkin wants to face a real A-side opponent..... now suddenly "that A-side stuff has to stop" ?

Really ?

Because..... those are the very same shameful double-standards that cause us to laugh at the fanboys.

Come on you guys........

Fk me LMAO

You defended Golovkin pulling a catchweight on Ward even though he was willing to fight Chavez/Froch at 168, simply because he was the A-side..... then, when that exact same situation arises with Canelo, suddenly you want the rules changed

Funny **** !!

[MDPopescu]

Of course Golovkin is the "A side"...

Just watch this image here...
Did anybody ever see a supposed #2 P4P to proudly take a picture near such an opponent like the guy at the right? No, you didn't and you'll never do, I guarantee...

Weigh-in done, ready for the fight. #WardVsSmith @PaulSmithJnr pic.twitter.com/eoBfllfKH9

— Andre S.O.G. Ward (@andreward) June 20, 2015

[SplitSecond]

YES, it was..... BOTH Loeffler and Sanchez stated the same thing.

" Loeffler feels that Golovkin is the A-side in any negotiations with Ward, which means they would expect to get a good deal from the negotiations. However, it’s a doable fight as long as Ward is..... agreeable to a 164lb catch-weight ".

http://www. boxing news 24 .com/2015...-basis-at-164/

And AGAIN, here.....

" Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation..... "

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-andre-ward-go-164-no-fight--93850

But, now..... now that Golovkin wants to face a real A-side opponent..... now suddenly "that A-side stuff has to stop" ?

Really ?

Because..... those are the very same shameful double-standards that cause us to laugh at the fanboys.

You just posted Loeffler saying Golovkin was the A-side, obviously Golovkin was the A-side, I'm talking about the demands though. Golovkin was up for halving everything, Ward on the other hand couldn't compromise anything.

How is 50/50 an A-side demand?

[aboutfkntime]

You just posted Loeffler saying Golovkin was the A-side, obviously Golovkin was the A-side, I'm talking about the demands though. Golovkin was up for halving everything, Ward on the other hand couldn't compromise anything.

How is 50/50 an A-side demand?

Wut ?

Dude, read the article.....

They BOTH stated that Ward would have to agree to 164, because Golovkin is the A-side.

You are fkn dreaming if you think you can spin that.