Comments Thread For: HBO Exec on The Rise of Golovkin, Securing Top Opponents

[turnedup]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. With Floyd gone, Pac-Nelo is the biggest fight in boxing. If Pac's gonna hang around, its gonna be fpr big checks. Plus he has a Floyd obsession. Manny ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Arum might be able to convince him that winning the "middleweight title" is a way to lure Floyd outta retirement.

Yeah the biggest two names that can within reason be matched up but if Margarito broke Pacquaio's ribs I am absolutely sure Pacquaio for all the money in the world isn't going to risk his political future to risk being put to sleep again that's where my stance comes from. 2-3 years ago..yeah. Right now damn near impossible. Pacquaio getting knocked out would ricochet through every other facet of his public persona at this point.

[Boxing lives]

I get it Tilli you don't like the guy...it's become pretty evidenced. He's a diva that has called out the last three lineal champions and they've all but jumped from a building to avoid him. That accounts for absolutely nothing at all..amazing how that works.



I'm sorry bro but Canelo has nothing for Golovkin and Oscar has practically made that point pretty clear as of late. Canelo will not fight Golovkin unless he is absolutely forced to and I doubt Sulaiman is going to force it to happen. Demanding 155 and 90% at least to my logical thinking indicates I don't want this to happen so i'm not willing to budge at all and let it be what it will be.

Well in all reality we won't really know what's what as far as who wants the fight and who doesn't until September. The fact is both sides agreed that they wanted an interim fight to build up a potential September PPV. If the fight doesn't come off in September, we can access who was to blame at that time. Canelo has so many punches that will bother GGG in reality. He has a lot GGG has not seen in awhile. Canelo isn't the same kid Gennady used to spar back in the day. He has improved dramatically and has the type of subtle wrinkles that Golobkin hasn't seen fighting the likes of flawed puncher Lemieux & co. Its the type of fight that can expose the fact that your subpar competition level didn't prepare you for the big moment.

[Scipio2009]

Still think Peter Quillin beats GGG?

Gennady Golovkin doesn't lay ANYONE out with a single shot; Peter Quillin does. You add that Quillin is likely to walk into any fight as the bigger, longer man, as well as being athletic enough to actually move his feet in the fight and your hope in Golovkin is misplaced.

In fighting Daniel Jacobs, Peter Quillin stepped in with a fellow fighter who could end any fight with one shot, and ended up getting clipped. Golovkin doesn't pose that threat.

Jacobs-Quillin happened Dec 5th, barely went half of a round (with Quillin's own trainer protesting that the fight was stopped early), without anyone taking an extended beating.

With Golovkin's HBO date already locked in for April 23rd, and Golovkin still scrambling for an opponent, why not put the call out to Quillin to test your hypothesis?

20 weeks between fights (a shorted fight, btw) still gives Quillin the time for a full training camp and to enjoy his break, and, rather than having to slog through 3-4 fights to get back into position, Haymon could be looking at an opportunity for Quillin straight-away.

Because K2 isn't as confident as you are.

[hitking]

Yeah the biggest two names that can within reason be matched up but if Margarito broke Pacquaio's ribs I am absolutely sure Pacquaio for all the money in the world isn't going to risk his political future to risk being put to sleep again that's where my stance comes from. 2-3 years ago..yeah. Right now damn near impossible. Pacquaio getting knocked out would ricochet through every other facet of his public persona at this point.

From a style standpoint, Margarito was a different animal that Canelo. Margarito is a pressure fighter that fights a big man's fight. Canelo doesn't fight like a big man. He's a boxer/puncher that works from a distance basically outboxing his opponent. The size difference wouldn't be that big a deal. Similar to the Floyd fight.

[hitking]

Thats true but if he does KO Canelo there is a lot of casual fans that watch Nelo that will suddenly think this guy is the best thing ever. The type of people that became Pacman fans because he was beating Barrera, Morales & JMM. It gets him over to a certain extent. If you look at what actual trainers in the boxing community are saying as opposed to opinions of boxing fans that don't actually fight then you see a lot of the experts actually favor Canelo. If GGG and his team thought Canelo was a sure win they would have jumped at the chance to fight at 155. They know Canelo is a real talent and that's why they have taken such a hard stance at the negotiating table. The GGG fanboys are at this point somehow trying to sway the reality of things but Golovkin at this point needs credibility and he's running out of time.

I think the whole 155 thing is bull****. Difference between me and the GGG diehards is that I don't have amnesia and don't have different rules for similar circumstances. GGG said he'd fight Floyd at 154. So if he wants the fight badly enough, I don't see why 155 is a problem for Nelo.

[OnePunch]

Why should he fight him at 155 when he doesn't have to? To appease you and only you? C'mon that's just ridiculous, why would you concede five pounds to a fighter who can't make you do that but still has to fight you or look like a chump by vacating a belt? Canelo walks around heavier than him. I could understand if this was him fighting a 147 pound fighter who was coming up and asking him to come down some but a guy who literally is dropping close to 30 pounds to make 155 is nothing but an excuse and one that you personally would be destroy at every turn if it was coming from many other fighters. If Alvarez vacates its worse than alvarez being ktfo...but that's just me.

believe me, its NOT just you.........

[hitking]

believe me, its NOT just you.........

Fortunately for Canelo, he has a fanbase that's gonna back him regardless. He also has a resume that includes names like Mayweather, Lara, Trout, and Cotto. So I'm sure he'll be fine if a couple folks like yourself don't like the way he's handled this GGG situation.

[Hype job]

Gennady Golovkin doesn't lay ANYONE out with a single shot; Peter Quillin does. You add that Quillin is likely to walk into any fight as the bigger, longer man, as well as being athletic enough to actually move his feet in the fight and your hope in Golovkin is misplaced.

In fighting Daniel Jacobs, Peter Quillin stepped in with a fellow fighter who could end any fight with one shot, and ended up getting clipped. Golovkin doesn't pose that threat.

Jacobs-Quillin happened Dec 5th, barely went half of a round (with Quillin's own trainer protesting that the fight was stopped early), without anyone taking an extended beating.

With Golovkin's HBO date already locked in for April 23rd, and Golovkin still scrambling for an opponent, why not put the call out to Quillin to test your hypothesis?

20 weeks between fights (a shorted fight, btw) still gives Quillin the time for a full training camp and to enjoy his break, and, rather than having to slog through 3-4 fights to get back into position, Haymon could be looking at an opportunity for Quillin straight-away.

Because K2 isn't as confident as you are.

[MisanthropicNY]

If you're already the unquestioned class of your division. What point does it serve to constantly chase after your subordinates that have little to no interest in fighting you? Canelo makes sense because of financial gain. But chasing guys like BJS is ******. GGG is clearly the top middleweight in the game. Now its time to try and establish himself as the top fighter in the game. And in order to do that, he's gonna have to look outside the middleweight division.

But he never held Floyd to that standard lol. Floyd was the top WW and SWW/JMW but he never moved up to Middleweight to fight Triple G... In fact, when he was at 140 he never moved up to fight Margo or Winky Wright.. You prove time and time again though hypocrisy that Floyd never challenged himself..

[MisanthropicNY]

Fortunately for Canelo, he has a fanbase that's gonna back him regardless. He also has a resume that includes names like Mayweather, Lara, Trout, and Cotto. So I'm sure he'll be fine if a couple folks like yourself don't like the way he's handled this GGG situation.

LOL @ including names like "Lara and Trout" hahaha Lemieux is a bigger name than both of them idiot.