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  • UNBIASED BOXING
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    #21
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
    Maybe. A puncher's chance is a trademark in boxing. I think Kid Chocolate has heavier hands than Lee or Stevens, so how GGG would take it, I'd assume he'd feel it more than what Lemieux layed down.

    I've been saying Kid, Korobov, Lee, and Jacobs are what GGG needs to face. Saunders or Heiland are other Southpaws need to be tested for GGG. I mean that's 160. Let's see what other bums K2 offers with low cash offers approved by HBO.
    The ****? Someone who hates on GGG actually admits Korobov is a good opponent? Did you see that other thread where all the ignorant haters came in, "Korobov's a bum, he lost to Andy Lee, another useless fight, etc."?

    I'm glad someone here recognizes Korobov is a top MW in all honesty.

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    • turnedup
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      #22
      I'll still call Golovkin the modern day Sergio Martinez...tied to a promoter without the checkbook to make people get over their reservations of fighting him. For all the hate this guy gets the fact they've tried to negotiate with every single belt holder in that division and practically have always gotten a "no" as a response is somehow the fighters fault. Him and Rigondeaux should sit down and lament their challenges over a beer.

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        #23
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
        HBO's garbage. at least their intro header shows Alvarez and Crawford. With GGG and Kovalev as their main intro of boxers represents what exactly? A European market appeal? I mean what is it? Seeing as Alvarez is the cash boy and has the most fans you'd think logically he'd be #1 then Pac, Crawford, and so on...

        But we know what time it is with demographic marketing. Happy Floyd shamed HBO and had Merchant fired from the network. HBO and its executives had to eat it =)
        Your pro black agenda is transparent, did your parents raise you to be prejudice?

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          #24
          Originally posted by turnedup
          I'll still call Golovkin the modern day Sergio Martinez...tied to a promoter without the checkbook to make people get over their reservations of fighting him. For all the hate this guy gets the fact they've tried to negotiate with every single belt holder in that division and practically have always gotten a "no" as a response is somehow the fighters fault. Him and Rigondeaux should sit down and lament their challenges over a beer.
          Golovkin's far surpassed Martinez in trying to get fights. They just offered BJS $3.5mill. The reported $1.5mill for Lemieux was more than double any B-side (non-Cotto/Chavez/Williams/Pavlik) opponent ever got from Martinez.

          Martinez avoided Pirog and never even tried to fight Sebastian Sylvester or Sturm. After the Paul Williams rematch, Martinez' only focus was to fight Chavez Jr and Mayweather.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
            HBO's garbage. at least their intro header shows Alvarez and Crawford. With GGG and Kovalev as their main intro of boxers represents what exactly? A European market appeal? I mean what is it? Seeing as Alvarez is the cash boy and has the most fans you'd think logically he'd be #1 then Pac, Crawford, and so on...

            But we know what time it is with demographic marketing. Happy Floyd shamed HBO and had Merchant fired from the network. HBO and its executives had to eat it =)
            Aww scared of a few Eastern European and Central Asians?
            It's too bad these fighters weren't able to turn pro before the 90s and even now that they can turn pro most of them choose not to. Even when the minority are turning pro you and many others are feeling so threaten. I wonder why?
            It's funny how people think 140-154 are the strongest divisions in boxing. I wonder why? Oh I know why, because it's the only divisions in which a certain group is doing well. It's also because those are the divisions that get the most coverage. Where are the Olympic medalist, World Amateur Championship medalist in those weight classes? Where are they?
            Those are divisions in which the top amateurs don't turn pro that's why the fighters certain people like are able to still control.
            Errol Spence, "The Future of Boxing" like some like to call him, got absolutely outclassed, humiliated, played with in the amateurs. Especially by a Kazakh fighter by the name of Serik Sapiyev. Sapiyev whooped him twice not just once. I bet Spence wouldn't feel so tough if Sapiyev would have turned pro.
            Kazakhstan has won the last three Olympic Gold medals at Welterweight and two of those fighters won the Val Barker trophy. It's a shame none of those guys turned pro. One of them was an Erislandy Lara conqueror (beating him three times). The Welterweight division would have looked so much different these past few years had they gone pro.
            Don't worry though, Kazakhstan has a very good chance of making it 4 Olympics in a row in which they take another Gold in the Welterweight division as Daniyar Yeleussinov will be one of the favorites to take home the Gold. He'll also be a contender for the Val Barker trophy more than likely. Hopefully he turns pro.
            Viktor Postol who wasn't even a great amateur is considered a threat at 140. Imagine if the guys above him would have turned pro. I wonder what poor Crawford would be at. Crawford a guy who couldn't even qualify to the freaking Pan-Am games by the way.

            I see some saying that Erickson Lubin is the future of the Middleweight division. Yeah, he'll be the future. That's if Bektemir Melikuziev, Anthony Fowler, Zhanibek Alimkhanuly, Michael O'Reilly, Petr Khamukov, Artem Chebotarev don't turn pro, then maybe I could see it. Those and a few others are the future of Middleweight and Super Middleweight divisions. That's if they turn pro of course.

            Hopefully we start seeing more turning pro. Specifically more Lightweights, Light-Welterweights, Welterweights, and Middleweights. Bantamweights and Light-Heavyweights would be great as well.
            It'll be hilarious when the top fighters at 140, 147, 154 are fighters some people don't like very much. I can't wait to see what they do.

            ****ing idiots like you always trying to act like these guys have no talent and are being given everything to them.
            Hopefully more start turning pro, let's see what you have to say when there is even more.

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              #26
              Another interview where this for says nothing

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                What comes after Canelo?
                There won't be Canelo until 2017, if ever.

                Time to grow some balls and find acceptable competition. If his people (and HBO) have to make peace with Haymon, that's what they should try and do.

                Or, Ward. That one should be easy to make at 168.
                Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 01-23-2016, 12:33 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  Golovkin's far surpassed Martinez in trying to get fights. They just offered BJS $3.5mill. The reported $1.5mill for Lemieux was more than double any B-side (non-Cotto/Chavez/Williams/Pavlik) opponent ever got from Martinez.

                  Martinez avoided Pirog and never even tried to fight Sebastian Sylvester or Sturm. After the Paul Williams rematch, Martinez' only focus was to fight Chavez Jr and Mayweather.
                  Another fighter Mayweather ducked when he was at the top of his game (Sergio). Thanks for reminding us, I always forget to mention him.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by turnedup
                    I'll still call Golovkin the modern day Sergio Martinez...tied to a promoter without the checkbook to make people get over their reservations of fighting him. For all the hate this guy gets the fact they've tried to negotiate with every single belt holder in that division and practically have always gotten a "no" as a response is somehow the fighters fault. Him and Rigondeaux should sit down and lament their challenges over a beer.
                    If you're already the unquestioned class of your division. What point does it serve to constantly chase after your subordinates that have little to no interest in fighting you? Canelo makes sense because of financial gain. But chasing guys like BJS is ******. GGG is clearly the top middleweight in the game. Now its time to try and establish himself as the top fighter in the game. And in order to do that, he's gonna have to look outside the middleweight division.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PulpFriction
                      Your pro black agenda is transparent, did your parents raise you to be prejudice?
                      nah sorry kid, I just didn't grow up in the rural sticks of North Dakota like you, ''saying hey PAw when's we gun see some injuns this season!?'' No, I'm an urbanized New York kid that's neither black nor white, but grew in a Hispanic community with both Asian flare, and I'm lucky to have grown up with other ***ish kats that knew real melting pot culture from inner city life. Just because I'm more educated on racial divides with objective points, along with my signature bothering you, doesn't make me ''pro black'' son. =P

                      Oh wait a minute, but because I'm from Turkey, I must be Pro Black!

                      Floyd in Turkey! Don't pop a boner from our women.

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