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  • Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post

    Would Lemieux lose so quickly to Jacobs, give or take a round due to the quick stoppage? It's possible, but I don't see how he could do any worse and I don't see how a KO 1 doesn't look bad, no matter who it's against. It shows Quillin wasn't ready for a fire-fight and that leads me to believe that Lemieux would be a bad matchup.

    The fact that you have to compare losses as opposed to wins says it all. The agenda here is thick.
    Well now you're talking about a H2H matchup which is a complete different argument of "who's the more proven better fighter" between Quillin and Lemiuex. Objectively, I showed you how Quillin was the better more proven fighter. Subjectively, we can talk about who would win in a matchup that may never even take place (i.e. Quillin vs Lemiuex) until we're both blue in the face. Neither one of us can prove one will beat the other. And rightfully so because that has zero to do with the argument at hand of Jacobs currently having the single best win in the division against Quillin, which is true.

    Go back and look at Post #109. I compared losses and wins. Again, Quillin is greater in the wins department because Lemieux's best wins come against fighters Quillin already beat. Now if you want to say "Quillin knocked N'dam down 6 times, but Lemieux beat him better by dropping him 4 times in a smaller ring", that's fine. But the fact still remains that Lemieux's best wins are against fighters Quillin already beat. Quillin also has additional wins against Winky Wright and McEwan whereas Rosado's only other notable victory is against Camacho Jr who is beneath the Wright and McEwan that Quillin fought.

    Quillin has the better resume and that's even before counting their respective losses.

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    • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      Well now you're talking about a H2H matchup which is a complete different argument of "who's the more proven better fighter" between Quillin and Lemiuex. Objectively, I showed you how Quillin was the better more proven fighter. Subjectively, we can talk about who would win in a matchup that may never even take place (i.e. Quillin vs Lemiuex) until we're both blue in the face. Neither one of us can prove one will beat the other. And rightfully so because that has zero to do with the argument at hand of Jacobs currently having the single best win in the division against Quillin, which is true.

      Go back and look at Post #109. I compared losses and wins. Again, Quillin is greater in the wins department because Lemieux's best wins come against fighters Quillin already beat. Now if you want to say "Quillin knocked N'dam down 6 times, but Lemieux beat him better by dropping him 4 times in a smaller ring", that's fine. But the fact still remains that Lemieux's best wins are against fighters Quillin already beat. Quillin also has additional wins against Winky Wright and McEwan whereas Rosado's only other notable victory is against Camacho Jr who is beneath the Wright and McEwan that Quillin fought.

      Quillin has the better resume and that's even before counting their respective losses.
      Nothing objective about your POV. Personal agenda aside, there's very little to separate the two fighters, especially considering their best wins are against the same group of fighters.

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      • Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
        Nothing objective about your POV. Personal agenda aside, there's very little to separate the two fighters, especially considering their best wins are against the same group of fighters.
        Yeah, outside of Lemieux getting KTFO by Rubio and losing to Alcine, you're right.

        But I'm sure if Quillin got KO'd by Lucas Konecny and lost to Jesse Brinkley I'm sure you'd be all over that. Because that's the equivalent to what happened to Lemieux. Let's forget about that though.

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        • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
          Yeah, outside of Lemieux getting KTFO by Rubio and losing to Alcine, you're right.

          But I'm sure if Quillin got KO'd by Lucas Konecny and lost to Jesse Brinkley I'm sure you'd be all over that. Because that's the equivalent to what happened to Lemieux. Let's forget about that though.
          He did get KTFO in one round by a mediocre Danny Jacobs.

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          • Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
            He did get KTFO in one round by a mediocre Danny Jacobs.
            I'm glad you said that because if Jacobs, the #2 MW is mediocre, then what does that make Monroe Jr, Korobov, Rosado, Lemieux, N'dam, Stevens, Rubio, Lee, Alcine, Adama, Proska, Guerrero, Macklin, Geale and Murray?

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            • Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
              How do we know Lara didn't receive a call? We only know about Korobov b/c his manager came forward.
              If they called Lara and he turned down their offer K2 would have spoken up about it. It would be a public relations victory for them.

              Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
              Some people are implying that K2 is scared to have GGG/Lara. Even if you think that, then why the hell isn't Lara jumping for the fight right now??? He should be putting pressure on K2 through media if he really wants it. Lara was talking in the past, now he's & GGG are both available and both looking for a fight, now's his chance to jump for it like he did with Alvarez.
              I don't get why Lara has to keep jumping and putting pressure on K2. His team has already done that and it isn't working.

              Korobov doesn't do any of that and he got a call. Why can't Lara get a call too?

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              • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                So you'd rather acknowledge Lemiuex's paper title over Jacobs hard earned defense of his title against Quillin without acknowledging the logistics in that Quillin was the much better more proven fighter?

                This is how boxrec rumors get started.
                You are WAY out of your depth here mate.

                You obviously don't know that Quillin turned down a $1.5 million purse and vacated the WBO title to avoid fighting his mandatory challenger.

                The name of the mando that Quillin ducked was Mat Korabov.

                Try consulting Boxrec yourself sometime. It will save you from making an idiot of yourself like that again.

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                • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  You obviously don't know that Quillin turned down a $1.5 million purse and vacated the WBO title to avoid fighting his mandatory challenger.

                  The name of the mando that Quillin ducked was Mat Korabov.
                  Ok and how does that change the fact that Quillin was better than Lemieux?

                  Did Lemieux beat Korobov, himself?

                  Quillin not fighting Korobov has nothing to do with Lemieux getting KTFO by Rubio and losing to Alcine, all the while his best wins being against opponents Quillin already defeated, does it?

                  Spare me with your faulty logic of irrelevant comparisons.
                  Last edited by Chollo Vista; 01-23-2016, 04:50 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by PBP. View Post
                    You mean to tell me we are getting Golovkin vs Korobov...THIS YEAR?!?!? Omg... HBO you are
                    the best!!!!!!


                    Do you think GGG might vacate his titles to avoid fighting Korabov, like Quillin did?

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                    • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                      Ok and how does that change the fact that Quillin was better than Lemieux?

                      Did Lemieux beat Korobov, himself?

                      Quillin not fighting Korobov has nothing to do with Lemieux getting KTFO by Rubio and losing to Alcine, does it?
                      Class is dismissed.

                      Don't forget to do your homework in future.

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