Worst Boxing Org/Sanctioning Body of 2015?

[original zero]

aboutfkntime -

Povetkin is committed to fighting for the WBC title. He is not available nor is he interested in fighting for the IBF title.

I'm not surprised that you don't know what "available" means as the thread is littered with examples of you not knowing what words mean.

The reason Povetkin isn't ranked has nothing to do with ineptitude and/or arrogance.

I JUST TOLD YOU WHAT THE REASON WAS.

But I forgot, anything involving rules or facts, you prefer to write some fanboy fan-fiction fantasy instead.

But I'll explain it again for anybody that missed it before:

An IBF champion can only defend his title against a top 15 ranked contender. The IBF only gives a #1 or #2 ranking to fighters that win an eliminator for that ranking, so those rankings are often vacant.

Which leaves the champion only 13 potential opponents to try to negotiate voluntary defenses against. If those 13 spots are used up by other title holders, interim champions, #1 contenders or fighters who flat out just aren't interested in fighting for the IBF, the IBF champion's options and ability to defend his title is severely limited.

So by ranking a fighter like Povetkin, who is not interested in fighting for the IBF title and isn't available because he's committed to fighting for a different title, would just be hogging a spot in the rankings that is supposed to go to fighters actively seeking a chance to fight the IBF champion.

Anybody else find it strange that Aboutfkntime spends so much time discussing rules when he wants to pretend they don't exist whenever they don't fit his narrative?

[aboutfkntime]

aboutfkntime -

Povetkin is committed to fighting for the WBC title. He is not available nor is he interested in fighting for the IBF title.

I'm not surprised that you don't know what "available" means as the thread is littered with examples of you not knowing what words mean.

The reason Povetkin isn't ranked has nothing to do with ineptitude and/or arrogance.

I JUST TOLD YOU WHAT THE REASON WAS.

But I forgot, anything involving rules or facts, you prefer to write some fanboy fan-fiction fantasy instead.

But I'll explain it again for anybody that missed it before:

An IBF champion can only defend his title against a top 15 ranked contender. The IBF only gives a #1 or #2 ranking to fighters that win an eliminator for that ranking, so those rankings are often vacant.

Which leaves the champion only 13 potential opponents to try to negotiate voluntary defenses against. If those 13 spots are used up by other title holders, interim champions, #1 contenders or fighters who flat out just aren't interested in fighting for the IBF, the IBF champion's options and ability to defend his title is severely limited.

So by ranking a fighter like Povetkin, who is not interested in fighting for the IBF title and isn't available because he's committed to fighting for a different title, would just be hogging a spot in the rankings that is supposed to go to fighters actively seeking a chance to fight the IBF champion.

Anybody else find it strange that Aboutfkntime spends so much time discussing rules when he wants to pretend they don't exist whenever they don't fit his narrative?

I don't think I would be interested either.

#secondrate

[LoadedWraps]

I don't think I would be interested either.

#secondrate

Well I want to see him reacquire it eventually, a true unification is best.

[original zero]

And I wouldn't be interested either. If one org will bend the rules for me and the other won't, I'm gonna go with the org that will bend the rules for me.

But AboutTime's problem is that he can't separate fact from personal prefence. He believes IBF is 2nd rate. That's lovely. I'm not dis*****g that.

But the IBF had no legal way to approve Fury-Klitschko II. Regardless of whether the IBF was 1st rate or 9th rate.

AboutTime is so blinded by rage that he can't see or acknowledge easily verifiable facts.

18 pages in and the following remains:

The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

Nobody has given us an alternative that would have held up in court.

We've seen "rules doe" a hundred times, as though we're simply able to pretend laws and courts don't exist.

We don't have to like something to know that it's true. I didn't like that the titles got split, but as a reasonable adult, I had to accept that the IBF had no other choice. I don't have to like it, but I'm not going to live in some fantasy land and pretend it's not true.

[aboutfkntime]

And I wouldn't be interested either. If one org will bend the rules for me and the other won't, I'm gonna go with the org that will bend the rules for me.

But AboutTime's problem is that he can't separate fact from personal prefence. He believes IBF is 2nd rate. That's lovely. I'm not dis*****g that.

But the IBF had no legal way to approve Fury-Klitschko II. Regardless of whether the IBF was 1st rate or 9th rate.

AboutTime is so blinded by rage that he can't see or acknowledge easily verifiable facts.

18 pages in and the following remains:

The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

Nobody has given us an alternative that would have held up in court.

We've seen "rules doe" a hundred times, as though we're simply able to pretend laws and courts don't exist.

We don't have to like something to know that it's true. I didn't like that the titles got split, but as a reasonable adult, I had to accept that the IBF had no other choice. I don't have to like it, but I'm not going to live in some fantasy land and pretend it's not true.

Genius, fighting Glazkov would have landed Fury in court facing a lawsuit from Klitschko for breech of contract.

Smarten up.

FACT: the IBF were incompetent/inept, when they stripped Fury

Glazkov could simply be next, end of story.

Fk the second-rate fighter Glazkov, AND fk the second-rate IBF as well.

They were arrogant for demanding that mando IMMEDIATELY, and they were ****** for stripping Fury for Glazkov, of all people.

It's not like they mandated anyone decent.

Hope you are happy with your " rules doe " and with your second-rate champion

[aboutfkntime]

The purpose of this thread, was to give posters an opportunity to laugh at the absurdity that happens to be the official sanctioning organisations.

There just had to be 1 asshat who was silly enough to front up and happily support them

I bet you really stand out from the crowd

[original zero]

aboutfkntime -

Correct. Fury had no way to renege on his obligations to Klitschko and the IBF had no way to renege on their obligations to Glazkov. It was an unfortunate situation. There was nothing either side could do *at that point.*

But the blame goes to Fury for agreeing to the rematch clause to begin with when he knew that doing so would guarantee him getting stripped. Not to mention guarantee that he would make far less for the Klitschko rematch than he otherwise would have made.

If his team felt he was going to lose and wanted the additional funds for a rematch clause, I'm not going to knock them for making the cautious decision, but that doesn't mean we can blame the IBF for stripping him when they had no choice.

Had nothing to do with incompetence or ineptness. It's the exact opposite. The IBF did their job correctly by stripping Fury. There was no other choice.

Doesn't matter if Glazkov and/or the IBF are 100th rate or 1000th rate. That doesn't change anything.

And it wasn't arrogance, it was the fact that the mandatory was OVERDUE. There was no wiggle room.

They mandated the fighter that agreed to the eliminator and won. Top fighters don't fight for the IBF so the top fighters turn down the eliminator.

Has nothing to do with happy or unhappy. You continue to show a complete inability to separate fact from personal preference.

FACT: The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury.

OPINION: I think the sanctioning bodies are awful for the sport and the sport would be better off without them.

I don't have to like the IBF to acknowledge clear cut fact. If you don't have the intellectual ability to make that distinction, so be it. I can't stop a petulant child from posting on the internet.

[aboutfkntime]

rules doe.....

The recent IBF heavyweight rankings.....

Nov - Klitschko
Dec - Fury
Jan - Glazkov
Feb - Martin
April - Joshua





Seriously dude, you really don't think that Klitschko > Glazkov would have been smarter?

[aboutfkntime]

Joshua will beat Martin.

Joshua will then refuse to unify with Fury immediately.

I really hope I don't ever see you bash Joshua for that.

Because that idiocy could have been avoided with a little common-sense.

[original zero]

Please explain how the IBF could have sanctioned Fury-Klitschko II without getting their ass handed to them in court by Main Events.

I'll wait.