Worst Boxing Org/Sanctioning Body of 2015?

[original zero]

What, no Glazkov ?

You seem to forget, Martin was the opponent..... the underwhelming opponent, I might add.

They stripped Fury for GLAZKOV..... NOT for Martin.

Glazkov was the the IBF #1..... NOT Charles Martin.

And yet, Glazkov doesn't even make your list ?

I had Glazkov losing to Cunningham and I had Glazkov being shut out by Martin at the time of his injury. So no, I don't have Glazkov in my top ten anymore. If you do, that's lovely. Just because YOU viewed Martin as an "underwhelming opponent" doesn't change the fact that he was the WBO #1, IBF #4 and is now top ten on BoxingScene, TBRB & Ring Magazine.

Why would I have Glazkov on my list just because he used to be IBF #1? Your logic is incredibly flawed. Glazkov was IBF #1 because he won the eliminator. An eliminator I didn't think he should have gotten the decision in. But why would my personal rankings have anything to do with the fact that the IBF had no choice to strip Tyson Fury?

Your post is a classic example of throwing feces at the wall.

But you can't get anything to stick because you don't make any sense.

[original zero]

Why does Martin get a year but Fury less than a week? Why couldn't the IBF wait for Fury to honor his contract and then enforce a defense? Don't worry, i'll wait...

Thank you for waiting. Even though I've already answered these questions, since you don't pay close attention, I'll gladly answer them again.

The IBF mandatory is due once a year. Martin just beat the mandatory, so the next mandatory will be due a year later. Common sense. Since you don't have common sense, I can see why this confused you.

Before Martin beat the mandatory, there hadn't been a mandatory since November 2014. So the mandatory was overdue and Fury was refusing to face the mandatory. The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury. Common sense. Since you don't have any common sense, I can see why this confused you.

Fury signed a contract that violated IBF rules, which is why he hid the contract from the IBF to trick them into sanctioning his first fight against Klitschko. If a rematch clause took precedence over a mandatory, nothing would stop fighters from agreeing to infinite rematch clauses, holding the title hostage ad infinitum.

Some of you have been brainwashed into believing a "rematch clause" is some sort of magical entity that all must bow down to.

A "rematch clause" is just agreeing in advance to a VOLUNTARY DEFENSE. Tyson knew a voluntary defense would not be allowed and chose to agree to a VOLUNTARY DEFENSE even though he knew it would force the IBF to strip him.

He made a business decision. I'm not knocking him. But he left the IBF no choice. So nobody should be knocking the IBF. Fury chose to give up his title. Nobody forced him. The mandatory was due, he chose a more lucrative voluntary instead. There is nothing controversial about what went down. Some people just like to cry and moan.

[aboutfkntime]

I had Glazkov losing to Cunningham and I had Glazkov being shut out by Martin at the time of his injury. So no, I don't have Glazkov in my top ten anymore. If you do, that's lovely. Just because YOU viewed Martin as an "underwhelming opponent" doesn't change the fact that he was the WBO #1, IBF #4 and is now top ten on BoxingScene, TBRB & Ring Magazine.

Why would I have Glazkov on my list just because he used to be IBF #1? Your logic is incredibly flawed. Glazkov was IBF #1 because he won the eliminator. An eliminator I didn't think he should have gotten the decision in. But why would my personal rankings have anything to do with the fact that the IBF had no choice to strip Tyson Fury?

Your post is a classic example of throwing feces at the wall.

But you can't get anything to stick because you don't make any sense.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

Wait.....

The IBF installed Glazkov as mandatory to Fury...... and yet, not only does Glazkov no longer make your top 10 list...... you don't even think he should have been ranked in the first place?





THEN HOW THE FK COULD YOU SUPPORT THE IBF STRIPPING FURY FOR A GUY WHO DOESN'T EVEN MAKE YOUR TOP 10 LIST?

AND, in spite of that, you are happy with his underwhelming opponent to be ranked as champion, despite being a prospect with not even 1 good win?

Well fk me, that certainly deserves another ricky.....

[aboutfkntime]

Thank you for waiting. Even though I've already answered these questions, since you don't pay close attention, I'll gladly answer them again.

The IBF mandatory is due once a year. Martin just beat the mandatory, so the next mandatory will be due a year later. Common sense. Since you don't have common sense, I can see why this confused you.

Before Martin beat the mandatory, there hadn't been a mandatory since November 2014. So the mandatory was overdue and Fury was refusing to face the mandatory. The IBF had no choice but to strip Tyson Fury. Common sense. Since you don't have any common sense, I can see why this confused you.

Fury signed a contract that violated IBF rules, which is why he hid the contract from the IBF to trick them into sanctioning his first fight against Klitschko. If a rematch clause took precedence over a mandatory, nothing would stop fighters from agreeing to infinite rematch clauses, holding the title hostage ad infinitum.

Some of you have been brainwashed into believing a "rematch clause" is some sort of magical entity that all must bow down to.

A "rematch clause" is just agreeing in advance to a VOLUNTARY DEFENSE. Tyson knew a voluntary defense would not be allowed and chose to agree to a VOLUNTARY DEFENSE even though he knew it would force the IBF to strip him.

He made a business decision. I'm not knocking him. But he left the IBF no choice. So nobody should be knocking the IBF. Fury chose to give up his title. Nobody forced him. The mandatory was due, he chose a more lucrative voluntary instead. There is nothing controversial about what went down. Some people just like to cry and moan.

If you stopped your car at a train crossing, and the light suddenly turned green, but you could clearly see that the train was still passing by..... you would cross the tracks, just because the "rules" said you should..... right?

You my friend, need to smarten up and take a look at the big picture.

[aboutfkntime]

The IBF is a second-rate organisation, with a second-rate champ to prove it.

[techliam]

About Time -

Nobody said Charles Martin was the best heavyweight on the planet. The IBF enforces their rules, therefore the best fighters prefer the orgs that will break the rules for them, therefore being the champion of the IBF rarely means you're the best fighter on the planet.

I've never argued that you should value the IBF. I've never argued that being the IBF champion makes you the best in the world. I've never argued anything other than the IBF had no choice but to strip Fury. That is indisputable fact.

It's a fact you don't like, but a fact nonetheless. An IBF Mandatory had not been made since November 15, 2014. The mandatory was overdue and Fury was refusing to face the mandatory so that he could make a voluntary defense instead.

The IBF had no choice but to strip Fury. Had they allowed Fury to keep the title, Glazkov would have sued the IBF and won millions of dollars. There was absolutely no wiggle room. I know you don't like the facts. I know you don't like reality. Both of us would have preferred that the titles not be splintered, but the IBF had no choice and you've presented no evidence to suggest that they had a choice.

It's hilarious that you claim the WBO stated that Martin was not a top 10 heavyweight . . . because ***THE WBO HAD MARTIN RANKED #1***.

Again, ***THE WBO HAD MARTIN RANKED #1***.

#1.

#1.

The WBO had Martin ranked #1.

So for you to claim that they didn't have him in the top 10 just shows that you're making up your arguments as you go along and have no idea what you're talking about.

Btw, BoxingScene has Martin in the top 10 and so does Ring Magazine. TBRB has Martin in the top 10 as well.


Since you're so curious about my heavyweight rankings, here they are:


CHAMPION: TYSON FURY

#01 - Deontay Wilder
#02 - Wladimir Klitschko
#03 - Luis Ortiz
#04 - Alexander Povetkin
#05 - Kubrat Pulev
#06 - Charles Martin
#07 - Anthony Joshua
#08 - Ruslan Chagaev
#09 - Steve Cunningham
#10 - Bermane Stiverne

Why on Earth would you rank Wilder over Povetkin? You are in a strict minority there

I can sort of understand why you'd rank Wlad there coming off a loss, but Povetkin has a far superior resume to Wilder, and Ortiz.

The top 5 for me:

Fury
Klitschko
Povetkin
Wilder
Ortiz

the rest noone really cares about in honesty. You're rankings guys like Martin, Stiverne and Pulev who'd done precious little recently.

[LoadedWraps]

Why on Earth would you rank Wilder over Povetkin? You are in a strict minority there

I can sort of understand why you'd rank Wlad there coming off a loss, but Povetkin has a far superior resume to Wilder, and Ortiz.

The top 5 for me:

Fury
Klitschko
Povetkin
Wilder
Ortiz

the rest noone really cares about in honesty. You're rankings guys like Martin, Stiverne and Pulev who'd done precious little recently.

Good list.

No love for Martin?

[Rpgboxen]

WBA is the worst with 3 title holders per division.

The WBC is a close second with making fighters that already have a title with another organization as interim champ of the WBC
see Golovkin and Kovalev

Also the Ring Magazine's championship policy is letting down for stripping an active Adonis Stevenson of their Ring Light Heavyweight championship and not sure why they stripped Yoan-Pablo Hernandez of the Ring Cruiserweight Championship.

[LoadedWraps]

WBA is the worst with 3 title holders per division.

The WBC is a close second with making fighters that already have a title with another organization as interim champ of the WBC
see Golovkin and Kovalev

Also the Ring Magazine's championship policy is letting down for stripping an active Adonis Stevenson of their Ring Light Heavyweight championship and not sure why they stripped Yoan-Pablo Hernandez of the Ring Cruiserweight Championship.

Well said. Good post.

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IBO should have replaced IBF anyway, guess IBF put the gun to their own head so to speak.