Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
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how successful has haymon and the pbc been so far.... be honest
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Originally posted by Omowale Tribe View PostFunny how you try to make everything about race. We see right through you. You just assumed all of them were black.
Coincidentally Fetta is Mexican-American, just like you.
And unless I'm mistaken -Kev- is Latino as well.
Latinos sure do love Al Haymon and PBC.
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Originally posted by R_Walken View PostI think for the first year they've done a great job, is there areas for improvement yeah but overall as a fan of the sport They're killing it especially after 9 months
PBC ****d HBO as far as competitve match ups and ratings. They probably have 7-8 of the 10 most watched telecasts in 2015. If you take out the PPVs for HBO the match ups isn't even close.
This is the first year as a fan that I can remember where there is more boxing then I can keep track of and actually missed decent fights because there is so much on TV. They are covering all levels of the sport ,from the top dogs , contenders, prospects all have been shown.
Look at espn FNF went from having no names fighting in fights I couldn't care less about to Garcia / Paulie Thurman/ Collazo LSC / Mares , Lara /Zavek
Spike TV shows have almost all been action packed. Plus when they stack up when HBO has a good fight you can watch 4-7 fights during the week that are interesting and spread throughout the week.
In 9 months they've had
Thurman /Guerrero
Garcia /Peterson
Broner /Porter
Dirrell/Degeale
LSC/Mares
Khan/Algieri
Guerrero / Martinez
Fonfara / Cleverl
Kameda / Mcdonald
Stevenson / Bika
Barthemly / Shakrirov
Charlo /K9
Rodriguez /Seaps
Huck/
Kono / Kqmeda
Peterson / Diaz
Quillen / Lee
And that's just off the top of my head I'm sure if I looked at the sched it probably be double amount of interesting fights
Errol Spences been on 2-3 times , Geovante Davis & Lubin& Barrios have got some shine , Figerora fought Burns & Demarco. Wilder been highlighted
Add in the cards on showtime this year which are basically PBC affiliated and their raising the sport and killing the competition
How is this a bad thing how as a boxing fan can you criticize what's been done in 9-10 fu.cking months
But hate away guys
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Originally posted by Chiboxing123 View PostI'll admit I really am no fan of uncle al.. simply because he's blocked some big fights I've wanted to see. seeing as we have more free boxing this week on fox it's made me think how successful has the pbc been so far. for us hardcore fans it's great because there's more boxing on the tube but are the casuals really catching on? do they really even care?let's here your responses and o btw doesn't that Charles Martin guy really suck... I mean can you believe a fighter that terrible with that horrendous skill set is a heavyweight champ? I mean really
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its like friday night fights when they'd show a high profile fighter's tune up, nothing new really
you get a mixed bag of boring schoolings and a few underdog surprises that turn into good fights
but i voted its terrible because of all these autistic guys on here who worship al haymon
its weird enough to worship an athlete because no grown man should worship another grown man, but al haymon is just some old crusty paper pusher and he has all these fans, i want to slap their ****ing faces
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Originally posted by Chiboxing123 View Postbeing honest that damn hbo makes pbc look cheap and 2nd class... the presentation has a big thing to do with it.
When PBC fails there will be a great period in boxing, with a lot of high level fights being made.
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Not much commercial success going by ratings. Hasn't been good for the sport due to the depth of the fragmentation we now have, but that was already the case with Top Rank and Golden Boy so PBC can't take all the blame for that.
The matchmaking has been dogshit. Angel Garcia spelled out what the philosophy is and it's the core problem with the entire endeavour. Ever since Haymon started acquiring talent his supporters kept claiming that 'next year' he was going to start putting killer schedules together. It hasn't happened, and the great match-up runs are always right around the corner.
But the crap matchmaking is unlikely to kill it. The commercial issues are more serious. I don't see ratings growing to an extent that Haymon can continue to pay hugely inflated purses for non-premium network fights. That will remain the case even if he signs a 'UFC-style deal', as it still comes back to ad revenue, and the ad revenue will never match premium network revenue without some phenomenal growth.
If Haymon doesn't start putting a lot more fights on Showtime, or if HBO/Top Rank don't come to him first, then he is going to start losing fighters in the next 18 months. They are with him for the money and that money is going to run out.
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