Stop Judging Boxers by What They Say

[Dr Rumack]

I'm tired of people judging boxers for their words instead of their actions. People these days get so worked up over every little thing public figures say. Whenever Mayweather, Kovolev, Broner, Tyson Fury, Mike Tyson or any other fighter says something "offensive" people get all worked up. All the sudden it becomes a huge ****ing deal and everyone rants on about racism or sexism or ****phobia or whatever other political bull**** people are worked up over.

Boxers are not politicians. They do not make political decisions. They hit other people for a living. That is their job. The sport is full of enough problems as it is - corruption, PED use, (non-boxing) violence, cheating etc - and yet the only thing that people that really gets people going is words. Stop trying to make boxing into something its not.

If you want to hate a boxer for beating up a woman or cheating then fine but don't hate them for saying some dumb ****. Everyone says dumb ****. Just get over it.

If someone chooses to dislike a fighter because he says their people look like monkeys, who are you to tell them not to? Should the fighter's ability to box outweigh their denigration of entire social groups?

Maybe for you it does. But that's your call. I don't see why everyone should have to think in the exact same way as you do.

[Publius]

If someone chooses to dislike a fighter because he says their people look like monkeys, who are you to tell them not to? Should the fighter's ability to box outweigh their denigration of entire social groups?

Maybe for you it does. But that's your call. I don't see why everyone should have to think in the exact same way as you do.

That's kind of the point. Kovolev talks some bull***** and you get mad. You turn it into this whole big political deal. Why?

I really can't imagine this type of insecurity. Although I guess that's the point, isn't it? I won't pretend to understand your life experience. What I will say is that boxers come to box. They don't come to change society. From Ali onwards too many people think boxers represent society when in reality all they represent is themselves.

[Dr Rumack]

I really can't imagine this type of insecurity. Although I guess that's the point, isn't it? I won't pretend to understand your life experience. What I will say is that boxers come to box. They don't come to change society. From Ali onwards too many people think boxers represent society when in reality all they represent is themselves.

Your personal incredulity is kind of irrelevant though, other than saying that you personally cannot understand something. If you are really motivated by trying to understand someone’s point of view rather than your own then you have to start with them and not with you. ********** of different types are and always have been demonized or worse, to a greater or lesser extent in different societies. That stuff has real consequences for real lives. If you care about particular issues, be it ****phobia or bigotry or xenophobia, then you are not going to like a public figure reinforcing those demonizing views.

The difference ultimately is how much you care about those issues. If the New York Times ran an editorial saying to ban badminton you might find it strange but you probably wouldn't be too bothered by it. If they ran one saying boxing should be banned you would react differently.

The fame or public impact of the person in question isn’t actually what matters, the importance of the issue to you personally is. The more you care, the less important the person has to be for you to care about it. If you don’t give a shit about something, the President of the United States could be talking about it and you would pay no notice. If you care a lot, some drunk saying it in a bar would be enough to piss you off.

[Eff Pandas]

This ain't just a boxing thing. In general people get more excited or mad or whatever about words instead of actions. And part of it is just because more people are talking about doing **** more often then people are doing **** so obviously saying **** gets more attention than doing **** overall.

And also people can get feeling whatever type of way about anything they want. I think its silly when people take boxers seriously over random **** they said sometimes regardless of if it was last week or 2 years ago, but if people wanna do that they can...and I can lol at them for taking that **** so seriously too & some cats can goof on me for loling at them....thats just sorta how **** works brother.

[Publius]

Your... off.

You are absolutely correct. I don't share your life experiences so I don't share your viewpoint on life. That's only natural.

I won't say any more because you are too easily offended. There's much to talk about, as there is with any person, but we can't have a discussion. So I'll leave it at that.