Will VADA testing make a difference in Kovalev vs. Pascal II?

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  • radioraheem
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Yes but VADA is the only testing agency with reputation of doing real testing, and not a farse like USADA.

    And also, as I quoted above, Kovalev team mentioned that VADA was cheaper than the doping agency that Pascal had already agreed to pay for. So? even though VADA was cheaper, Pascal wasn't interested on it. I wonder why... maybe because they aren't as corrupt as other anti doping agencies?
    VADA is not the only one's with a reputation for doing random drug testing. There are many random drug testing agencies worldwide. VADA isn't even recognized by WADA. NSAC's random drug testing program is just as good. The organisation Pascal used before is just as good too. And VADA is good.

    Pascal was the one footing the bill, so he had every right to pick and choose whichever organisation he wanted. If Kovalev offered to split the bill, he wouldn't have minded VADA. It's a fair compromise if both parties are paying. If the roles were reversed and Kovalev was paying for it, and Pascal refused, then Kovalev calls the shots. Pascal cannot pick and choose since he doesn't want to pay.

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    • lefthook2daliva
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      #22
      Pascal is gonna' get fkd up.

      That's all there is to it.

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      • about.thousands
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        #23
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        Your guy has all the signs of steroids use buddy....



        LOL Pascal wanted testing but when VADA was mentioned he no longer wanted to be tested.
        So why didn't he go ahead and do it and why hasn't he done it since or previously? Pascal gets tested voluntarily. But he's the dirty one. You make no sense

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        • kafkod
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          #24
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          He agreed to VADA, but at the same time he didn't want to pay for it. They said Pascal had to foot the bill. But Pascal originally came to Team Kovalev with a different organisation for the random drug testing. And that was the main problem. It was more about Kovalev not wanting to help pay for the testing, and trying to pick and choose who did the random drug testing at the same time.
          No, the problem was not that Kovalev wouldn't help pay for the testing.

          Pascal asked for random testing after the contract had been signed, and stated that he would pay for it himself, for both of them.

          Kovalev agreed to this, but insisted that his samples should be tested by VADA, rather than the other agency Pascal wanted to use.

          He wasn't saying that Pascal had to use VADA also. Pascal could use whatever agency he wanted for his own tests, but Kovalev did not want to give his samples to an agency he knew nothing about.

          The problem was not the expense, because the VADA tests were a lot less expensive than the agency Pascal used.

          Imo, the whole thing was a bluff by Pascal, to try and discredit and rattle Kovalev before the fight. He expected Kovalev to turn down his offer, and when Kovalev called his bluff and accepted it, Pascal backed down.

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          • kafkod
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            #25
            Originally posted by radioraheem
            VADA is not the only one's with a reputation for doing random drug testing. There are many random drug testing agencies worldwide. VADA isn't even recognized by WADA. NSAC's random drug testing program is just as good. The organisation Pascal used before is just as good too. And VADA is good.

            Pascal was the one footing the bill, so he had every right to pick and choose whichever organisation he wanted. If Kovalev offered to split the bill, he wouldn't have minded VADA. It's a fair compromise if both parties are paying. If the roles were reversed and Kovalev was paying for it, and Pascal refused, then Kovalev calls the shots. Pascal cannot pick and choose since he doesn't want to pay.
            As I just pointed out in my reply to you, it was Pascal who called for the tests, and Pascal himself who said that he would pay for them.

            Kovalev wasn't trying to make Pascal use VADA, and he had every right to insist on VADA for his own tests.

            Yeah, Pascal was footing the bill, but it would have been Kovalev in the shit if a false positive had come back for any of his samples.

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            • boliodogs
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              #26
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              They couldn't come to an agreement their first fight and Pascal wound up being the only one tested. But this fight they've both agreed to VADA testing. This is the first time Kovalev has agreed to VADA testing before a fight
              I don't think it will make any difference. Kovalev knocks him out quicker this time. I don't think peds help a boxer much if at all. A boxer is either good or they aren't. If they aren't good all the steroids in the world won't make them good. If they are good then they don't need steroids. Joe Louis and Ray Robinson were great without peds. Am I supposed to believe they would have been much better if they used peds? I don't believe that. Peds are for weight lifters and body builders but don't do much for boxers. Look at the builds of the two boxers. Pascal is extremely muscular. That's not proof he is on anything but he has the build for it. Kovalev is just a strong, well built boxer but not overly muscular like Pascal.

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              • The Hammer
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                #27
                Kovalev tested clean.

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