Why do you hate Deontay Wilder?

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  • Zaroku
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    #51
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER

    Because Tyson is a thug
    I am crazy about Mike Tyson. Still am. I like that silly cartoon Mike Tyson mysteries.

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    • BKM-
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      #52
      Originally posted by about.thousands
      So UFC didn't have the best fighters until they bought Strikeforce.
      No, the UFC literally already had almost every single top fighter in the world already, there were just a handful of fighters in SF(who had never been in the UFC before) left who they needed to get, and within a couple of years they had them fighting in their org already.

      Don't you see how ridiculous your argument is? You're saying the UFC isn't the best because there are some other great fighters elsewhere yet in nearly every single instance the UFC buys them out and gets them to fight in the UFC. They're doing exactly what they need to get the best vs best matchups.

      MMA was only partitioned in the Pride era which again, was bought out by UFC so this has not been an issue since 2007.


      Although White was claiming the best figthers were UFC fighters. And like I said.
      And secondly, a lot of the Strikeforce fighters improved WHEN they came to the UFC.

      -Rockhold and Jacare have improved tenfold since they came to the UFC.
      -Lawler was a journeyman in Strikeforce with no TDD and weak groundgame. Since he's been in the UFC nobody can take him down and definitely not keep him there.
      There were also plenty of SF fighters who got their **** pushed in by SF fighters.
      The only true world class guys at the time of Strikeforce were Cormier, Overeem, Fedor(we all know why that didn't work out) and Nick Diaz. They all lost to the UFC top fighters when they came in. The others were not as good yet or never would be as good.

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      • about.thousands
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        #53
        Originally posted by Courage Award
        The UFC turns every other org into a feeder by buying their roster as soon as it's decent.

        Saying they don't have the best fighters because those fighters started somewhere else is ******ed. That would mean some reservation casino has the best fighters since they had them first.

        We didn't KNOW how good most of those guys were until they were in the UFC.
        If a reservation fighter is any good he'd be ranked by a sanctioning organization and have to fight similarly ranked fighters. Because there is no independent sanctioning organization UFC fighters will never fight the best unless they're signed with the UFC. They can't have world champions. UFC is manufactured. No world champions. No p4p fighters. Only UFC p4p

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        • Real King Kong
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          #54
          Because of his classless attack on charlie z before they could even get in the ring .He couldn't hurt charlie z...he was goin in on him, but thought twice after taking that thunderous body shot.

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          • Chrismart
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            #55
            I don't hate him. That said, i'm not really a fan. I don't particularly look forward to his fights or enjoy his style.

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            • Fury4daWIN
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              #56
              I don't hate him but he does evoke some strong negative reactions from me on a pretty regular basis. Moreso than Wilder himself I dislike the whole apparatus built up around him, the hype, the marketing, the cynical manipulations of casual fans desperate for the American glory days. It's a smoke and mirrors job and Wilder isn't good enough to uphold the image people are setting for him.

              As for the man himself, he seems alright if you don't pay too much attention to everything that comes out of his mouth. I dislike the whole gangsta schtick he has going on, but that's mainly because I can't relate to it or find it entertaining, though like Fury's clowning I realise it's just an act. Both fighters seem pretty cool when in more sombre surroundings.

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              • Shrap
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                #57
                Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
                Because he's black...i only root for boxers who look like me...and like the other guy said he's ****** and does ****** dances...
                Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
                I dislike him because he's black...

                That being said, most people outside my family start looking uncomfortable when I say this. So what I do now is list other reasons I don't like him even though they're not the real reason.

                There are key phrases to use such as,

                1. I don't like his ******ness
                2. I don't like his thug attire
                3. I don't like his gangsta persona
                4. He aint fight nobody (this a good one, because in this era of HW's that will always be an excuse).
                5. Without punching power he'd be mediocre at best (I hide the fact that my favorite fighters are matthsysee and maidana)
                6. I don't like the way he talks
                7. He paid Malik Scott off
                8. He ducked Povetkin (casuals don't read articles haha)
                9. Stiverne was dehydrated so that win doesn't count
                10. I'll be impressed after he beats Fury, Klitschko, Povetkin, and rules the HW division for the next 5 years

                With this list I can hide the real reason I dislike him, while openly hating on him in public
                Even if these posts are ****ty trolling there is no need for such blatant racism. Take that **** somewhere else.

                I like Wilder. As people say he is entertaining and his fights are unpredictable. My only problem is the media and fanbase talking him up - the guy is a ticking timebomb. He just lacks so many boxing fundamentals and relies entirely on his size and power, that will be a fatal mistake against someone like Fury. That being said I'll enjoy his run while it lasts.

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                • Nubia
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
                  Because he's black...i only root for boxers who look like me...and like the other guy said he's ****** and does ****** dances...
                  Originally posted by BKM-
                  He does cringe worthy '****** dances' inbetween rounds too not just after fights, I can't find other gifs of it but it was especially bad against Stiverne. That and his ****** gangsta thug shtick, yes they make him an unlikeable goofball. It's not the type of goofing I can appriciate, others like you do. Tyson Fury's act is entertaining to me mostly because it's all an act.
                  Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
                  I dislike him because he's black...

                  That being said, most people outside my family start looking uncomfortable when I say this. So what I do now is list other reasons I don't like him even though they're not the real reason.

                  There are key phrases to use such as,

                  1. I don't like his ******ness
                  2. I don't like his thug attire
                  3. I don't like his gangsta persona
                  4. He aint fight nobody (this a good one, because in this era of HW's that will always be an excuse).
                  5. Without punching power he'd be mediocre at best (I hide the fact that my favorite fighters are matthsysee and maidana)
                  6. I don't like the way he talks
                  7. He paid Malik Scott off
                  8. He ducked Povetkin (casuals don't read articles haha)
                  9. Stiverne was dehydrated so that win doesn't count
                  10. I'll be impressed after he beats Fury, Klitschko, Povetkin, and rules the HW division for the next 5 years

                  With this list I can hide the real reason I dislike him, while openly hating on him in public
                  I'm not sure what's more concerning. The fact that only 3 people were truthful in their answers or the fact that people like this actually exist and are fans of the sport. "Racism is dead, it's 2016 doe".

                  Lol.

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                  • Nubia
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                    #59
                    But in the end, it doesn't really matter why you hate him. He'll continue to rack up devastating KO wins and will likely remain undefeated for a very long time. Wilder's single fights are more entertaining than Wlad's entire career.

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                    • NateHound
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by about.thousands
                      If a reservation fighter is any good he'd be ranked by a sanctioning organization and have to fight similarly ranked fighters. Because there is no independent sanctioning organization UFC fighters will never fight the best unless they're signed with the UFC. They can't have world champions. UFC is manufactured. No world champions. No p4p fighters. Only UFC p4p
                      Yeah but that doesn't matter. Because 99/100 times the UFC champion will be the best champion in that division. It doesn't matter if it an official WORLD title. Because anyone with a brain knows you aren't a real champion in MMA unless you're UFC champion.

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