Why do you hate Deontay Wilder?

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  • about.thousands
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    #31
    Originally posted by NaijaD
    I don't dislike him but like another poster said, everything about him is manufactured. You look at his record and at 36-0 with 35 KO's.. to be quite frank, it's very thin. Stiverne is the only real quality name and that's pretty weak in my opinion.

    Also the TS like me has been critical of GGG who's opposition is light years ahead of Wilder, so it makes no sense in terms of fairness for him to defend Wilder.
    I'm more critical of GGG's resume because of his amateur background. I'm more realistic when it comes to Wilder. GGG is 34 years old with a deep amateur background and Olympic silver medalist. If Wilder beats Povetkin he'll have a better resume than GGG.

    Originally posted by NaijaD
    Wilder needs to start facing genuine challenges, Povetkin would be a good start and I hope he pulls through so the Fury fight gets even more hype and prestige behind it.
    Who are these genuine challenges you speak of? Glazkov was ranked higher than Szpilka and he ducked Wilder to take an easier route. Szpilka was the next highest rated contender and turned out to be better than Glazkov. He beat Stiverne. Povetkin keeps delaying the mando but can't hide any longer. Ortiz choose the WBA route. He'll likely face the winner of Fury/Klitschko before fighting Wilder. Unless the winner of Fury/Klitschko fights Wilder for a unification if Wilder beats Povetkin. Who are these HW killers he's avoiding? He rose up through the WBC rankings and won his belt the right way. Who is he avoiding?

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    • DJ Enerate
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      #32
      He's been feasting on bums (sounds like fisting bums hahaha) and has crap boxing skills. Wilder fans have the cheek giving Fury **** for apparently lacking skills. The reality is Wilder has the slick black look that fools people into thinking he's good. If Fury was a black yank he would be the next Ali. I hope Fury beats Wlad and goes over to the States to school that hype job. Fury as actually an extremely good boxer for a man of his size and he has no fear of anything. The people who think he's **** because he punched himself in the face are the type of people that deserve to have a downsyndrome kid. Joking, that's way ott .

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      • Slip Stream
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        #33
        He is not inspiring as a fighter.

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          #34
          I love the guy. His story is real rocky stuff. His love for his people, the way he beat up the Internet troll, good stuff.

          I am mad at him because Tyson Fury talks better crap than him. How can that be???

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            #35
            Originally posted by about.thousands
            Why do the goofball antics make Fury likeable? And what goofball antics?
            Fury backed it up by fighting the best of the best and winning though. Wilder got dropped by absolute 100% 24 carat bums like Sconiers and Nichols. Also has been getting outclassed and wobbled by other terrible fighters (as Fury has, but they weren't as much of bums)

            Wilder is just the HW Peter Quillin. Still a KO waiting to happen.

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              #36
              I like him and last night's KO was great. If he fights Povetkin next and wins convincingly, I'll be on the bomb squad.

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              • NaijaD
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                #37
                Originally posted by about.thousands
                I'm more critical of GGG's resume because of his amateur background. I'm more realistic when it comes to Wilder. GGG is 34 years old with a deep amateur background and Olympic silver medalist. If Wilder beats Povetkin he'll have a better resume than GGG.



                Who are these genuine challenges you speak of? Glazkov was ranked higher than Szpilka and he ducked Wilder to take an easier route. Szpilka was the next highest rated contender and turned out to be better than Glazkov. He beat Stiverne. Povetkin keeps delaying the mando but can't hide any longer. Ortiz choose the WBA route. He'll likely face the winner of Fury/Klitschko before fighting Wilder. Unless the winner of Fury/Klitschko fights Wilder for a unification if Wilder beats Povetkin. Who are these HW killers he's avoiding? He rose up through the WBC rankings and won his belt the right way. Who is he avoiding?
                A better resume than GGG after beating Povetkin?? .... I absolutely disagree, that would make it 2 decent names out 37 opponents. And unlike Wilder, GGG is genuinely avoided by the names at 160. You don't see anyone jumping into the ring after a Golovkin knockout. I don't care for GGG or his annoying ball guzzler fans on here but I'm not about being ridiculously biased either.

                I don't care if Wilder didn't have GGG's amateur background, he has a belt so there's no excuse for guys like Molina or Duahapas to be getting title shots. Wilder's rise through the rankings is very questionable too, he fought Scott for the Mandatory spot..... why was scott ranked so high after getting stopped by Chisora in his previous outing. Wilder is manufactured and has had it easy on his path to the title. You have no grounds to criticise GGG while making so many excuses for Wilder.

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                  #38
                  I don't hate him , Wilder is not the best but he got a punching chance against any heavyweight fighter

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by NaijaD
                    A better resume than GGG after beating Povetkin?? .... I absolutely disagree, that would make it 2 decent names out 37 opponents. And unlike Wilder, GGG is genuinely avoided by the names at 160. You don't see anyone jumping into the ring after a Golovkin knockout. I don't care for GGG or his annoying ball guzzler fans on here but I'm not about being ridiculously biased either.

                    I don't care if Wilder didn't have GGG's amateur background, he has a belt so there's no excuse for guys like Molina or Duahapas to be getting title shots. Wilder's rise through the rankings is very questionable too, he fought Scott for the Mandatory spot..... why was scott ranked so high after getting stopped by Chisora in his previous outing. Wilder is manufactured and has had it easy on his path to the title. You have no grounds to criticise GGG while making so many excuses for Wilder.
                    Who's avoiding him at 160? You can't accept money in order for a fight to happen and then turn around and claim duck. It doesn't work like that. Forcing his mando and the fighter dropping the belt is a duck. Agreeing to not fight isn't a duck. Saunders is the only MW I can say is ducking GGG.

                    Who should he have fought instead of Molina and Duahapas?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by about.thousands
                      The best does not fight the best in MMA. I just gave you an example of better fighters who would've never fought UFC fighters if not for UFC buying strikeforce. UFC is manufactured. There is no independent sanctioning organization for their belts. That's why a UFC champion can never be a world champion, only a UFC champ.
                      The example that you gave proves you wrong. Strikeforce had great fighters, so UFC destroyed Strikeforce and took all their best fighters. If there are better fighters elsewhere, the UFC signs them unless those fighters are fools who can't do business with Zuffa. If there's a company that has great fighters the UFC eventually buys them out and all the best fight under one roof.

                      MMA has better, more consistent best vs best matchups than boxing.

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