Virgil Hunter touches up on Floyd Mayweather's recent interviews regarding racism...

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  • nacho daddy
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    #41
    Originally posted by Slip Stream
    Because I can speak the language you apparently have a difficult time constructing? So I should disregard your lack of education and focus on the fun "fact" you just cited? I wonder what you have that poses for credibility that I can rely on since you can't write in the English language? Instead of citing one stat for what I can only guess are for idiotic purposes look at all the stats surrounding black men, once you do that, it would become less likely you'd be assh0le enough to come to this site throwing out numbers as if you're attacking someone.

    The number you cited is a symptom of a larger problem. Thankfully smarter people than yourself are working on this....
    in a 1000 years problem will be the same being you "smart" people are in charge. it is your types that have destroyed the black family with your "intelligence". 60 years ago black families were way better off being hard working honest people.

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      #42
      This is an interesting read. Racism certainly exists. I won't bother debating with someone who feels otherwise. I believe that racism in boxing is a bigger issue in the media than anything else. There's always a search for the next "great white hope" so to speak, and white fighters seem to be darlings of media while black fighters are attached with a certain stigma. I'm sure there are issues on the business side, but I need to be more informed in order to comment in depth. Floyd has pretty much run boxing. You have plenty of black fighters who become champions and make good money. I do think it may be easier for a white fighter to get opportunities to challenge for a title and make money though. Virgil is a smart guy.

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        #43
        Originally posted by nacho daddy
        in a 1000 years problem will be the same being you "smart" people are in charge. it is your types that have destroyed the black family with your "intelligence". 60 years ago black families were way better off being hard working honest people.
        is that your newly purchased wife on your avatar????

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          #44
          Originally posted by Sterling Archer
          is that your newly purchased wife on your avatar????
          LOL there was a time where she would pay me

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            #45
            Originally posted by Motofan
            Yep. In 1983. And he was right. In 1983.
            And when you here MTV's response - the initial denial, then defensiveness, and then the logic used to defend there programming choices (who is 'marketable', what will the 'Midwest' say, etc.) you'll quickly note how common that sort of thinking is: TODAY.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Sweet Jones
              And when you here MTV's response - the initial denial, then defensiveness, and then the logic used to defend there programming choices (who is 'marketable', what will the 'Midwest' say, etc.) you'll quickly note how common that sort of thinking is: TODAY.

              Precisely....he doesn't draw flies doe, he boring doe....yadda yadda yadda...the way you explained it, was exactly what happened on this forum since these threads have been made the last few weeks


              the best should be paid, get the accolades and promoted....There is no reason why a fighter like Gatti got paid handsomely the way he did, while better fighters got paid less and no PPV

              i.e.....Gatti getting PPV dates than fighters who were better is complete bullshyt to me...he was exciting doe

              Look at fighters like Eddie Booker....no one knows who he is... 66-5-8 was his record and he actually beat elite fighters like Archie Moore, Holman Williams, Jack Chase, and Lloyd Marshall...he isn't even in the hall of fAME

              I said it once and I'll say it again....the only people who deny the precensce of prejudice in the media and sports are the ones who benefit from it



              Barry friggin McGuigan is in the hall of fame? for what....being a decent fighter and irish?? While guys like Gilberto Roman and many of the great Japanese fighters under 126 will never see the hall.....boxing is racist as ****

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              • Bigg Rigg
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                #47
                But why is that the black fighters that act like bafoons, Broner and Floyd, are way more popular IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY than Ward and Bradley?? I seldomly see African Americans talking about how great of a boxer Ward is. It's all about Floyd being unbeaten and having money, cars, ***elry. Never hear how much of a warrior Bradley is. I always hear about Broner tore up the club and was super lit.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                  But why is that the black fighters that act like bafoons, Broner and Floyd, are way more popular IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY than Ward and Bradley?? I seldomly see African Americans talking about how great of a boxer Ward is. It's all about Floyd being unbeaten and having money, cars, ***elry. Never hear how much of a warrior Bradley is. I always hear about Broner tore up the club and was super lit.
                  lets be real...in America who runs the media and what we see on TV? White people.....In America the only history the teach is white American history and history of others told from a white persons perspective......Its crazy....words like savages to describe the natives(who taught their dumb azz how to irrigate, raise crops, hunt, herbs, ****es, etc.).....when Katrina happened they called American citizens refugees( Louisiana, Texas, and Miss. have some of the highest % of non whites in their population...I doubt that would have happened if a natural disaster hit Utah or Idaho where the demographic is 70 % white


                  How many major networks or media outlets are run by people of color?


                  Floyd's misdeeds get publicity, but speaking on his charitable work and things he does for Vegas and other places isn't gonna be on ESPN or TMZ


                  Ward and Bradley not doing or saying controversial things is exactly why they don't get a lot of shine

                  Roy Jones was the fighter of the 90s, his life didn't have a lot of drama.....he promoted himself and had sponsorship from Jordan, all the while being bashed by HBO, a company who broadcast his fights...didn't get near the pats on the backs on the likes of GGG but definitely was a better fighter....Jones wasn't boring and had a good fan base, the media just didn't take to him because he didn't show his azz

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Slip Stream
                    Dude are you serious? All of the characteristics you just listed are attributes white men show with impunity but somehow going to a strip club is now an ethnic stereotype along with materialism, egomania and arrogance? Simple human male behavior is an ethnic stereotype of the African American community? Mayweather's persona was not that of a "buffoon" as you call him, it was a persona meant to denote luxury, even excess but buffoonery, I think is a word you dreamed up all by yourself to describe Floyd's antics.

                    Lastly, no, black women are not laughing at black men, that's ****ing moronic. Black women are doing everything in their power to support their men and are astonished that they can't find more of them to date and marry. I've been in rooms filled with black women numerous times, with them speaking their minds freely about black men and none of the nonsense you listed comes up, ever. Not even a hint....
                    You might have missed several points.

                    1) This is strictly anecdotal, as I am African-American and was raised in a lower-class black community...but there are segments of black women (and men as well) who subscribe to the theorem that being "thuggish" is being "black" and therefore, disregard the guys who do not appear to be thugs. I wasn't a square, but I sure wasn't a thug, and I distinctly remember that dynamic as a teen and young adult.

                    2) For African-American fighters, the main seller is usually controversy. Andre Ward lacks controversy, so he generates less money. Floyd wasn't a big money guy until after ODLH fight when he started using the "Money" persona. Being in strip clubs, partying, materialism, egomania, arrogance, etc is only controversial when you're young black and rich. Look at Broner's presence on Worldstar Hip Hop, straight up foolishness. but it's controversy and it keeps his name out there.

                    Floyd's team understood racial politics in the American sports world. Nothing makes the mainstream more uncomfortable than a rich, successful, unapologetically boastful African American man. The mainstream will avidly pay attention him, hoping for his downfall. For TMT though, that led to

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BlakBread904
                      You missed several points.

                      1) This is strictly anecdotal, as I am African-American and was raised in a lower-class black community...but there are segments of black women (and men as well) who subscribe to the theorem that being "thuggish" is being "black" and therefore, disregard the guys who do not appear to be thugs. I wasn't a square, but I sure wasn't a thug, and I distinctly remember that dynamic as a teen and young adult.

                      2) For African-American fighters, the main seller is usually controversy. Andre Ward lacks controversy, so he generates less money. Floyd wasn't a big money guy until after ODLH fight when he started using the "Money" persona. Being in strip clubs, partying, materialism, egomania, arrogance, etc is only controversial when you're young black and rich. Look at Broner's presence on Worldstar Hip Hop, straight up foolishness. but it's controversy and it keeps his name out there.

                      Floyd's team understood racial politics in the American sports world. Nothing makes the mainstream more uncomfortable than a rich, successful, unapologetically boastful African American man. The mainstream will avidly pay attention him, hoping for his downfall. For TMT though, that led to

                      He had to crap on people to get attention....when he was Pretty Boy Floyd, million dollar smile, polite yet kicking everyones arse in sight, he got no shine...while lesser fighters like Gatti were hyped like the best thing since sliced bread and getting PPV dates and money


                      If he didn't change his moniker or persona he wouldn't have made as far as he did.




                      Look at guys who had the talent but didn't talk Trash....Roy Jones, Whitaker, didn't get a lot of publicity because they were not controversial

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