PAC loss to BRADLEY: Would Legacy be Tarnished??

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  • Dr Rumack
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    #11
    For sure. Imagine what people would be saying about Leonard now if it wasn't for Camacho.

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    • Zaroku
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      #12
      Originally posted by Beercules
      Hello. Im here. Im not saying anything close to what you've posted.


      Why would a loss to Bradley mess up Pacquiaos legacy?
      My comment was directed at Rath & Spoon. Some fans actually believe it.



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      He has a great Legacy, but it can be argued he beat guys that Floyd already beat. Floyd beat Hatton, DLH, first. PAC beat them more convincingly or stopped them, but there are too many ways to review things.

      I think a loss to Bradley will signal that he stayed around too long. Like so many other Fighters.

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        #13
        No matter what people say about rjjj his legacy isn't effected as well. Actually rjj is pushing his luck a bit now with his continuing to lose.
        But rjj is still one of the goats. He may have dropped a place or two and the worse thing ids perhaps he has become s bit of a sad figure to some, not knowing when enough is enough.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Zaroku
          My comment was directed at Rath & Spoon. Some fans actually believe it.



          https://*************/watch?v=aRVoAtUCRhs

          He has a great Legacy, but it can be argued he beat guys that Floyd already beat. Floyd beat Hatton, DLH, first. PAC beat them more convincingly or stopped them, but there are too many ways to review things.

          I think a loss to Bradley will signal that he stayed around too long. Like so many other Fighters.
          Maybe the standards for PAC are so high, that even knocking someone out in2 rounds isn't impressive? I mean if floyfd knocked any version of hatton out in 2 rounds it would be an amazing victory for Floyd. But for PAC its just Floyd beat him first type attitude or letss be honest excuses we're all grown ups here
          Last edited by hugh grant; 01-09-2016, 09:11 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Zaroku
            My comment was directed at Rath & Spoon. Some fans actually believe it.



            https://*************/watch?v=aRVoAtUCRhs

            He has a great Legacy, but it can be argued he beat guys that Floyd already beat. Floyd beat Hatton, DLH, first. PAC beat them more convincingly or stopped them, but there are too many ways to review things.

            I think a loss to Bradley will signal that he stayed around too long. Like so many other Fighters.
            They're both dumb. I thought Pac would beat Floyd, I took my crow and admitted Floyd won (it was boring) but whatever.

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            • Zaroku
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              #16
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              No matter what people say about rjjj his legacy isn't effected as well. Actually rjj is pushing his luck a bit now with his continuing to lose.
              But rjj is still one of the goats. He may have dropped a place or two and the worse thing ids perhaps he has become s bit of a sad figure to some, not knowing when enough is enough.
              I see RJJ the same way. But I hate feeling bad when boxers keep going past their prime. Duran hung around to long too.

              I like the way Zarragosa went out and passed the torch to Erik Morales.

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              • Zaroku
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                #17
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Maybe the standards for PAC are so high, that even knocking someone out in2 rounds isn't impressive? I mean if floyfd knocked any version of hatton out in 2 rounds it would be an amazing victory for Floyd. But for PAC its just Floyd beat him first type attitude or letss be honest excuses we're all grown ups here
                Hatton's first loss was to Floyd, messed up Hatton's mind. A first loss will do that to a boxer.

                Maybe the standards are high for all top level boxers.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Beercules
                  They're both dumb. I thought Pac would beat Floyd, I took my crow and admitted Floyd won (it was boring) but whatever.
                  It was boring. I wanted Floyd to fight toe to toe, but I knew that wouldn't happen. I bet money on Floyd to beat PAC.

                  After I lost money betting on Castillo in the first fight, and seeing a bad decision, I decided to bet with him, and not against him. I bet DLH would beat him, twice burned.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                    For sure. Imagine what people would be saying about Leonard now if it wasn't for Camacho.
                    Very good point. Sticking around too long can and often does hurt a fighters legacy.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Zaroku
                      Hatton's first loss was to Floyd, messed up Hatton's mind. A first loss will do that to a boxer.

                      Maybe the standards are high for all top level boxers.
                      But particularly for PAC. Its not a coincidence that only poac was able to stop hatton so early. I mean if out of shape hatton stepped in the ring today with anyone nobody is stopping him in 2 rounds. Floyd would not stop hatton even right now in 2 rounds.

                      So people were always trying to deny PAC. But lucky for PAC we are not fooled easily

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