Does Wilder get through Tyson Fury's resume undefeated?

[Fury4daWIN]

He'd be 25-0 (25 KOs).

You think he'd beat McDermott?

[denium]

Chisora would have given Wilder a tough workout, and possibly would've knocked him out.


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[Earl-Hickey]

chisora ko's him

wlad ko's him

Mcdermott would of ko'd him if they fought at that stage (twice)

so he'd be 21-5 with 5 ko losses and the new michael grant

[Chrismart]

Chisora and Wlad would've beat him.

[New England]

I think the chisora from the first fury fight beats wilder. He was a tough bastard then and I think he'd rough up wilder.

wilder has too much power. that's a bad style for chisora, who can't punch worth a lick, and would have no other option but to come forward.

wilder would have two options. if chisora's chin is too good he could coast and win a decision. if he thinks he can hurt him he can land stuff on the way in and try and put together a finish.

[Clegg]

I could see Cunningham having some success against Wilder as he did against Fury and everyone else he's faced even in defeat, but the result would be the same. Wlad would have a good chance. Wilder has been improving, a year ago Wlad beats him but now it's a hard one to call.

I'm talking about the current Wilder vs the guys Fury fought, the Wilder of a 2+ years ago loses to a few of the guys Fury has faced.

[New England]

what i don't agree with is the idea that wilder could beat each name at the same point in their careers.


fury has been boxing since he was a boy. wilder learned how to box as an adult. his tour across the south and midwest beating bums allowed him to go through the 15-20 training camps he needed to get in top sparring and learn how to box above a novice level.



what problems does fury pose that wilder didn't? if anything, klitschko was taken back by a guy who could both step backwards and whose arms were longer than his. wilder has much faster feet, hands, and his arms are just as long as fury's. heck, wilder might even be taller. fury is not 6'9".


what's important is that klitscko was completely finished by the time fury got to him. he couldnt' pull the trigger. his chance to beat wilder would be to throw punches and knock him out. he won't throw punches against a more accurate puncher, with the same arm length, and a heck of a lot more power than fury, if he didn't throw them against fury.

wladimir was all done. expect him to collect one last paycheck and move on to the next phase of his life, which may very well be in politics.

[LoadedWraps]

what i don't agree with is the idea that wilder could beat each name at the same point in their careers.


fury has been boxing since he was a boy. wilder learned how to box as an adult. his tour across the south and midwest beating bums allowed him to go through the 15-20 training camps he needed to get in top sparring and learn how to box above a novice level.



what problems does fury pose that wilder didn't? if anything, klitschko was taken back by a guy who could both step backwards and whose arms were longer than his. wilder has much faster feet, hands, and his arms are just as long as fury's. heck, wilder might even be taller. fury is not 6'9".


what's important is that klitscko was completely finished by the time fury got to him. he couldnt' pull the trigger. his chance to beat wilder would be to throw punches and knock him out. he won't throw punches against a more accurate puncher, with the same arm length, and a heck of a lot more power than fury, if he didn't throw them against fury.

wladimir was all done. expect him to collect one last paycheck and move on to the next phase of his life, which may very well be in politics.

So you think Wlad just couldn't pull the trigger, and you don't believe that was due to Fury feinting, slipping, and rolling shots? Weird...

[SN!PER]

The feints and slippery movement caused fear, which led to Wlad's inactivity.

The argument can be made that Wilder's speed and power would have caused Wlad even more fear than he had against Fury.

A lot of fans on here rightly pointed out that Wlad had already lost his confidence in the Jennings fight. He has a family to take care of now and doesn't want to risk getting badly hurt and ending up like Magomed.

[New England]

So you think Wlad just couldn't pull the trigger, and you don't believe that was due to Fury feinting, slipping, and rolling shots? Weird...

basically, yes. he's 40 years old in march. he boxed more than 350 rounds as a pro. what did he have, around 70 fights?

long amateur career including an olympic gold medal.

three knockout losses early in his career. he couldn't even pull the trigger on his jab, let alone the right hand. he'd paw his jab to set up clinches

the man was not going to be fighting forever. he's a shot fighter. that was an aboslutely awful performance, and fury didn't do much better.


if fury was in such complete control of the fight, a talented offensive fighter, etc, he'd do more than the next to nothing he did. it wouldn't have been one of the worst HW title fights ever, which it was.