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Fury will be great for boxing as champion till Wilder KO's
Wlad threw the Fury fight and collected a kings ransom in throwing the fight some estimate as $50 million or more. The Ukraine also collected huge amounts of cash on the fixed fight for armaments and ammo. Boxing is so easy to fix a fight it's comical. 6 punches a round by Wlad. Come on? Wlad looked terrible and obviously did not know how to throw a fight. Of all sports Boxing is the easiest to fix. Been that way for decades. Horse racing is up there also as the racing game is notorious for fixes. There is a stench around the Wlad fight still. The stench of millions being made off a thrown fight. Look for a Wlad win via Ko in the rematch.
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Originally posted by denium View PostFury has been involved in many entertaining fights. Klitschko hasn't.
style out of him or if he starts being a fighter who works at all turns...i'm lookin a little deeper than most, but it isnt unfair considering my points
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostThis from an Andre Ward fan!
It was a great display of defensive boxing by Fury, but he didn't do enough clinching, holding and head butting to keep some people happy, I guess.
i take that back i am a ward fan..im a fan of everyone bc i dont a fight unless u ask me to pay for crap that is not worth it...BUT I CALL IT LIKE IT IS!..Rigo is a helluva fighter, but his last outing was horrid to watch...but with that being said rigo isnt taller and bigger than any of his opponents..so safetry first is understandable when u're 15lbs ligher like he normally is...show me the fight where tyson had to deal with that..sure wasnt vs 40 year old limited unwilling to believe in himself wladimir klinchko...the guys one of the worst champions that boxing has ever had to deal with.
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Originally posted by tiliheelsQuote:
Originally Posted by denium
Fury has been involved in many entertaining fights. Klitschko hasn't.
that i could agree with, but all of his opponent are world class now if he fights who he should be fighting..there not the short cunningham that u can get beat up by until u tire him out by leaning on him....these opponents are long like wlad and have power as well..we'll see if that continues to bring this loosey goosey
style out of him or if he starts being a fighter who works at all turns...i'm lookin a little deeper than most, but it isnt unfair considering my points
At the end of the day, both the Chisora & Hammer fights were title eliminators, not the kind of fights you mess around in, and Klitschko always stinks out the joint in any fight he's in. People have short memories, look at the Abell fight, yeah he's a bit of a bum, but he can punch and Fury was dropping his hands and giving him free shots.
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Originally posted by denium View PostFury wasn't really getting beaten up by Cunningham, he went in there to make it entertaining, both men were taking and giving shots. If Fury wanted to, he could've used his size advantage and jab Steve to bits all night.
At the end of the day, both the Chisora & Hammer fights were title eliminators, not the kind of fights you mess around in, and Klitschko always stinks out the joint in any fight he's in. People have short memories, look at the Abell fight, yeah he's a bit of a bum, but he can punch and Fury was dropping his hands and giving him free shots.
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and lets not pat chisora nor hammer on the back to hard..i'll give tyson his chance but if he's boring to me this is wilder's division..the hw division cant be this bad this long and we just sit an ignore that only one guy is changing...if they fight i dont think fury stands a chance if he just wants to fire away pats....and for the ppl that argue fury playing with wlad and ready to figre off huge counters if wlad did open upt...to them i say this...wilder can adjust to being countered i coultn believe it when i seen it but i seen it...it aint perfect but it worked...now if he shows me he'll adjust to a jab i have to say he's pretty solid on defense..
molina was clocking him...pay attentiont o wilder's adjustments so that wouldnt happen no more...
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Originally posted by tiliheels View Posti'm not a damn andre ward fan..i've said many of times he's boring and that the paul smith fight was unwatchableOriginally posted by tiliheels View PostWARD VS KOVALEV IS THE SPORTS BIGGEST FIGHT...if ward was pbc it would be ward vs stevenson..that tells you how real that name ward is...i dont care about ppv buys..i rather see those 2 fights over any other 2 fights in boxing right now
ward,kov,stevenson>anything else boxing has to offer me
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Originally posted by tiliheels View Postok im cool with you cunningham thought, but when a guy that small drops you..i say he was beating your behind
and lets not pat chisora nor hammer on the back to hard..i'll give tyson his chance but if he's boring to me this is wilder's division..the hw division cant be this bad this long and we just sit an ignore that only one guy is changing...if they fight i dont think fury stands a chance if he just wants to fire away pats....and for the ppl that argue fury playing with wlad and ready to figre off huge counters if wlad did open upt...to them i say this...wilder can adjust to being countered i coultn believe it when i seen it but i seen it...it aint perfect but it worked...now if he shows me he'll adjust to a jab i have to say he's pretty solid on defense..
molina was clocking him...pay attentiont o wilder's adjustments so that wouldnt happen no more...
And I find it hard to believe that anybody could watch Wilder vs Molina, then Fury vs Klitschko, and pick Wilder to beat Fury, based on what they saw in those 2 fights.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostFury got up after being decked by Cunningham and he knocked Steve out cold. So who beat who's behind?
And I find it hard to believe that anybody could watch Wilder vs Molina, then Fury vs Klitschko, and pick Wilder to beat Fury, based on what they saw in those 2 fights.
dont look at the early rounds..i promise u the man started moving his head and i couldnt believe it..also in training now he's keeping his right hand up to guard when he throws the left jab...wilder fought slow comp in those 2 fights..they are nt horrid but they are not world class..AND I SAW IT HELP HIM..
the molina fight reminds me a lot of erroll spences last fight...spence and wilder both got caught with several counters early...they had to adjust the adjustments were different for spence bc of the southpaw angle but we dont say spence is a bad fighter and isnt picked to beat ppl...
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