Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Manager Doubts Saunders, Warren Being Serious

[cupocity303]

Negotiating and badmouthing through the media never leads to anything good. This won't sit well with Warren or Saunders. They'll probably go a different route because of this interview, why deal with a big mouth who does not know how to be patient? The deal was offered recently I imagine. This guy is either ****** or deliberately trying to ruin the potential fight so that GGG just fights Johnson.

I disagree. You need to badmouth them and call attention to Sanctioning body belt hostage takers. Clearly, GGG is the man to beat at 160 (excluding Alvarez, who is also a big money fight for anyone). Why wouldn't Saunders wanna face him if he is in his division?

There are too many European fighters with european management and promotional companies who pick up a belt and are content on fighting "contenders" that are listed in the top 20 of whatever belt they're holding (in this case the WBO), while being a moderate ticket draw in their region.

Whether it's the Sven Ottke or even Felix Sturm who disappeared from the World Title picture after losing to Delahoya. He has been coasting, being a secondary Title holder at 160 for years while the Jermain Taylor, Kelly Pavlik, Sergio Martinez's of the world were rulers of the division.

GGG clearly is historically conscious and aware. He wants to be officially Undisputed in the history books, and is probably set on breaking Hopkins' title defense record since he is close to it. Saunders is another guy in the way. Alvarez is trapped and has no wiggle room, no matter how much of a draw he is. GGG wants his belt and will not compromise on the weight just to land a big money fight. I'd love for GGG to pull a David haye or a Antonio tarver and go bully Saunders overseas into a fight.

[Chollo Vista]

Junior Witter bad mouthed Hatton for years. And that was the exact reason why Hatton never signed to fight him.

[Squ□redCircle34]

Once Golovkin gets ahold of Canelo and knocks him out then what will he do next?

Yes he'll finally get his first solid win at the age of 34 or 35 and it'll be semi impressive for the stoppage but what will he do next?

GGG chasing money fights and I somewhat blame him, his management team he had before K2 did him a grave disservice which he should've requested a buyout or legal seminar of his career trajectory.
Dude should be a superstar by now with that power, image and being undefeated. I blame that on his opponents not wanting to get in the ring with him due to the high risks without huge gains.
If they'd fought him he'd probably would've had Sturm, Martinez, Quillin, and Abraham on his resume which would be way better than what he has now. Chavez Jr and Pirog don't count because those are understandable issues.

He should just move up after the Canelo fight, I think he can beat the likes of Degale, Dirrell bros., and Badou Jack.

[HeroBando]

Junior Witter bad mouthed Hatton for years. And that was the exact reason why Hatton never signed to fight him.

He also didn't bring any fans AFAIK, Hatton brought all of them. This is more like Hatton offering other guy life changing money and calling him out for dragging their feet

[Eastcoast]

Junior Witter bad mouthed Hatton for years. And that was the exact reason why Hatton never signed to fight him.

That and the fact that Whitter was a high risk fight for Hatton.

[hitking]

The thing is, why send an offer to a guy that's on record saying that he isn't interested in the fight for a year and a half? Seems like a lotta grandstanding by Team GGG to excuse the Johnson fight, which is probably already made.

[hitking]

I disagree. You need to badmouth them and call attention to Sanctioning body belt hostage takers. Clearly, GGG is the man to beat at 160 (excluding Alvarez, who is also a big money fight for anyone). Why wouldn't Saunders wanna face him if he is in his division?

There are too many European fighters with european management and promotional companies who pick up a belt and are content on fighting "contenders" that are listed in the top 20 of whatever belt they're holding (in this case the WBO), while being a moderate ticket draw in their region.

Whether it's the Sven Ottke or even Felix Sturm who disappeared from the World Title picture after losing to Delahoya. He has been coasting, being a secondary Title holder at 160 for years while the Jermain Taylor, Kelly Pavlik, Sergio Martinez's of the world were rulers of the division.

GGG clearly is historically conscious and aware. He wants to be officially Undisputed in the history books, and is probably set on breaking Hopkins' title defense record since he is close to it. Saunders is another guy in the way. Alvarez is trapped and has no wiggle room, no matter how much of a draw he is. GGG wants his belt and will not compromise on the weight just to land a big money fight. I'd love for GGG to pull a David haye or a Antonio tarver and go bully Saunders overseas into a fight.

Saunders doesn't want GGG right now for the same reasons Gennady doesn't want Ward right now. Financially, it doesn't make sense. GGG doesn't offer a big enough payday to lose his biggest bargaining chip. And that's his belt. As you said, he can be a moderate draw in his hone region fighting no hopers. Also, SHO appears to be setting up a fight with he and Jacobs. Which financially, is likely comparable to what he'd make fighting GGG. Plus, its a more winnable fight. You GGG d1ck riders kill me wanting to talk all this noble, guts-n-glory bull**** when it benefits Gennady. But when he's faced with a risk/reward that's probably not gonna benefit him, y'all turn into promoters and accountants.

[SteveM]

And they shouldn't take BJS serious.

Saunders publicly told GGG to fuc off and said he needed 18 months before he's ready to fight him.

If GGG's next fight isn't Canelo, his team need to spend time negotiating with Daniel Jacobs team. If people have always recognized GGG as the real MW champion then his little mandatory defense against T. Johnson won't really matter will it; especially if he's fighting a much worthy challenger/champion in D. Jacobs.

If you're not fighting Canelo, the next fight HAS to be against Jacobs.

Does the Jacobs-GGG fight count as a unification in the eyes of the IBF? I don't think so. Before June Golovkin has to have a fight fixed with Canelo or Saunders or he fights the IBF mandatory. Does the IBF allow step asides? They seem the strictest belt org.

[cupocity303]

Saunders doesn't want GGG right now for the same reasons Gennady doesn't want Ward right now. Financially, it doesn't make sense. GGG doesn't offer a big enough payday to lose his biggest bargaining chip. And that's his belt. As you said, he can be a moderate draw in his hone region fighting no hopers. Also, SHO appears to be setting up a fight with he and Jacobs. Which financially, is likely comparable to what he'd make fighting GGG. Plus, its a more winnable fight. You GGG d1ck riders kill me wanting to talk all this noble, guts-n-glory bull**** when it benefits Gennady. But when he's faced with a risk/reward that's probably not gonna benefit him, y'all turn into promoters and accountants.

I will give a C+ grade for this reply. A bit of logic mixed in with a whole lot of emotional reasoning.

Nobody mentioned anything about "guts and glory". Stop generalizing and lumping the poster you're replying to into whatever category or group you have caricatured.

I specifically mentioned being historically conscious of becoming the Undisputed Middleweight Champion and wanting to break the title defense record. Nothing to do with guts and glory. It's a feasible goal.

Saunders is not to GGG what GGG is to Ward; we will give you a F here for comparison. GGG was not ranked, yet alone the title holder in Ward's division. Saunders is campaigning in GGG's division and has one of the two remaining belts at that weight class. We are dealing with facts here. Please refrain from emotional outbursts and stick to the points.

Thanks in advance.

[hitking]

I will give a C+ grade for this reply. A bit of logic mixed in with a whole lot of emotional reasoning.

Nobody mentioned anything about "guts and glory". Stop generalizing and lumping the poster you're replying to into whatever category or group you have caricatured.

I specifically mentioned being historically conscious of becoming the Undisputed Middleweight Champion and wanting to break the title defense record. Nothing to do with guts and glory. It's a feasible goal.

Saunders is not to GGG what GGG is to Ward; we will give you a F here for comparison. GGG was not ranked, yet alone the title holder in Ward's division. Saunders is campaigning in GGG's division and has one of the two remaining belts at that weight class. We are dealing with facts here. Please refrain from emotional outbursts and stick to the points.

Thanks in advance.

Awwww, look at lil CroationSensation trying to act like a knowledgeable fight fan. Dude, you're the same clown that got abused daily on the old HBO forum. Those guys were clowns. But they were more knowledgeable than 95% of the dumbasses on here. So don't come at me like I don't know you for the weirdo freak that you are that used to stalk folks from thread to thread. And don't act like you're talking to one of these ****** ass newbie fux that infest this site. Cause you know better.