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  • daggum
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    #71
    Originally posted by about.thousands
    340k isn't bad for both guys first PPV. On his next two PPV's as the A-side he did 375k and 325k. Those are very good numbers when you aren't the featured fighter on HBO like Golovkin is.
    sorry i may be misunderstanding but what does this mean? featured fighter? floyd had been on hbo for 7 years before his first ppv. how was he not a featured fighter?

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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Really, so what percentage is BH of his peak? At Floyd's peak he was bloating up jmm and boasting about how good he was beating jmm easier than PAC. Floyd was also wasting time with lay offs.? So he can make up for it now against GGG if he beats GGG at only 90% of what he was than what an achievement.

      You guys can all quote me on that
      You sound so self-important. Most people don't take you seriously. Your hatred for Floyd was fun to watch over the years.

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        #73
        Originally posted by about.thousands
        It was both their first PPV. That's a good number for your first PPV. What do you consider a good PPV number on your first try? And like I said, neither Gatti nor Floyd were HBO's premiere boxer. GGG is.
        Well buma$$ Chavez Jr did 475k in his first HBO ppv vs a weak B side **in Ppv terms). Doing a lot less vs much more popular opponent in your debut shows a lot less ppv promise.

        Either way you can't say GGG always flops on Ppv when he's had one chance vs a guy that brought little. He does have a lot working against him, which is why it was surprising they went Ppv without being a B side first. But it was the only way to make a unification so whatever

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          #74
          Originally posted by daggum
          sorry i may be misunderstanding but what does this mean? featured fighter? floyd had been on hbo for 7 years before his first ppv. how was he not a featured fighter?
          You have your featured fighters. The one the network features the most. Then you have your regular HBO fighters. Some might say Canelo but GGG gets more push from HBO than GGG. Well let me say this. Before GGG's disappointing PPV's he was getting more push from HBO than Canelo. But Max and Lamps still push GGG more than Canelo. At the time Gatti was more featured than Floyd and Oscar was their #1 fighter.

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            #75
            How is mr 150k worth hundreds of millions?

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              #76
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              It was both their first PPV. That's a good number for your first PPV. What do you consider a good PPV number on your first try? And like I said, neither Gatti nor Floyd were HBO's premiere boxer. GGG is.
              you are using words like featured fighter and premiere boxer. where did you get these terms from and are you the sole judge of what a premiere boxer on hbo is? hbo invested 7 years in floyd. how in the world was he not a premiere boxer? especially after roy and lennox had just retired/fell off. who else was there on regular hbo?

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                #77
                Originally posted by HanzGruber
                How is mr 150k worth hundreds of millions?
                150 is a packed football stadium for that many people to order a guy who isnt from the states and hasnt fought any of the states main fighters is amazing.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by about.thousands
                  You have your featured fighters. The one the network features the most. Then you have your regular HBO fighters. Some might say Canelo but GGG gets more push from HBO than GGG. Well let me say this. Before GGG's disappointing PPV's he was getting more push from HBO than Canelo. But Max and Lamps still push GGG more than Canelo. At the time Gatti was more featured than Floyd and Oscar was their #1 fighter.
                  oscar was on ppv though. pac and canelo are bigger ppv stars right now than ggg so you cant say back then oscar was their number one guy and floyd wasn't and then at the same time say ggg is now #1 when canelo and pac are on hbo ppv like oscar was.

                  you don't think hbo "pushed" floyd? he was on hbo for 7 years before doing his first ppv. they gave him a ton of easy fights along the way and waited for the perfect opponent on ppv. a popular but over the hill fighter fighting way above his best weight class. ggg fought a relatively unknown guy in his first ppv. ggg doesn't have any super popular fighters except cotto and canelo and he has tried to face both of them. if floyd had his first ppv against henry bruseles or corley it prob would have tanked. even against a fellow beltholder like spadafora it would have tanked. ggg's timing just wasn't as good as floyd's but a ppv against lemiuex was the only way he could get his belt so they made the fight. he could have waited around fighting bums like floyd did for years but he decided to be proactive.
                  Last edited by daggum; 12-31-2015, 11:00 PM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by A.K
                    150 is a packed football stadium for that many people to order a guy who isnt from the states and hasnt fought any of the states main fighters is amazing.
                    sure but not hundreds of millions worth to floyd lol.. "bigger than the pac fight" is one of the dumbest things ive read on here

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Well buma$$ Chavez Jr did 475k in his first HBO ppv vs a weak B side **in Ppv terms). Doing a lot less vs much more popular opponent in your debut shows a lot less ppv promise.

                      Either way you can't say GGG always flops on Ppv when he's had one chance vs a guy that brought little. He does have a lot working against him, which is why it was surprising they went Ppv without being a B side first. But it was the only way to make a unification so whatever

                      PPV's that didn't do 200k

                      2000 Jones vs Harding-125k
                      2001 Holyfield vs. Ruiz-185K
                      2003 Tyson vs. Etienne-100k
                      2003 Toney vs. Holyfield 150k
                      2004 V. Klitschko vs. Williams 100k
                      2015 GGG vs. Lemieux-150k

                      Fighters first PPV: (I'll exclude the HW's because they were doing monster numbers)

                      1995 De la Hoya vs Ruelas-330k
                      2001 MAB vs Naseem-310k
                      2005 Morales vs. Pacquiao-345k
                      2005 Gatti vs Mayweather-340k
                      2004 V. Klitschko vs. Williams 100k
                      2012 Martinez vs. JCC Jr-475k
                      2015 GGG vs. Lemieux-150k
                      Last edited by about.thousands; 12-31-2015, 11:15 PM.

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