When Will Wilder Fight Somebody With a Pulse!?

[al-Xander]

There's usually an alt or two that come out before the fight and posts "Wilder is going to be exposed!" or something. This time there is none. Wow. This is a foregone conclusion. Wilder wins without a doubt. Szpilka has no pulse, indeed. Only thing we can try to predict is the manner in which Szpilka is going to get spanked.

Or just forget about it and speculate whether he fights Povetkin next, or not.

Anything interesting in the undercards?

[LoadedWraps]

that comparison couldn't be much further out of left field . you're comparing floyd mayweather to tyson fury...


from what planet do you have to be to think fury is faster and more athletic than wilder?


i think wilder is a bad style for fury precisely because he's faster and hits harder, and is roughly the same size in height and reach. you think fury's a bad style, why exactly? because he's british? because he outboxed a 40 year old, completely shot wladimir kltischko? because steve cunningham caught up to him and almost planked him ? fury wasn't all that hard to hit until he foght a 40 year old who didn't throw any punches . brits seem to revise things based on the color of the trunks, which i get. we've had dozens of HW champions. how many have you guys had?


you're also calling pacquiao one dimensional, which is absurd. manny had plenty of extra dimension at WW. he's one of the most dynamic offensive fighters you will ever see when he was at his peak and using in and out motion and both hands to land power. he was shot to pieces against floyd, and hadn't had the footwork that typified his prime and was his best asset in years.


finally i'll add that floyd beats manny at any weight. that's a bad style, particularly when you account for the 5 inch reach advantage that mayweather had, nearly insurmountable at WW.

First of all....you know better than to confuse me with some random Brit casual fanboy, I am a freaking latino american from California. Heck I should be a more ardent fan of Ward than you, I can throw a stone and hit Oakland. I won't support an inactive fighter who refuses to face the kingpin of his division in GGG however, whether he is the home pick or not.

You know darn well there is no bias from my end.

Wilder is not faster than Fury, where does this myth come from?

And when was Fury ever easy to hit? I hope you don't references times in his previous fights where he was showboating and got tagged....that really says nothing, other than he was showboating and got caught.

And again, you keep clinging to this myth about Wlad being shot.

You are better than that New England, you know he wasn't throwing many punches because Fury was controlling him with feints, jabs, and ring generalship. I can't wait until Wlad's first fight after Fury, so I can call you out on that lie when we have irrefutable evidence.

Wilder is an aggresive fighter and probably makes it a war with Fury just because he can pressure him and will let his hands go and not be cautious, but Fury is the infinitely better boxer, the more intelligent fighter, and he has a granite chin and the heart of a lion. Wilder makes it to the 9th before the ref saves him from Magomed-type permanent damage.

Oh and please tell me what other dimensions Pac has other than throwing jabs and crosses with the occasional uppercut from the same three angles? Have you ever seen Pac make major tactical adjustments in a fight? Show me just one example. Just one!

[LoadedWraps]

There's usually an alt or two that come out before the fight and posts "Wilder is going to be exposed!" or something. This time there is none. Wow. This is a foregone conclusion. Wilder wins without a doubt. Szpilka has no pulse, indeed. Only thing we can try to predict is the manner in which Szpilka is going to get spanked.

Or just forget about it and speculate whether he fights Povetkin next, or not.

Anything interesting in the undercards?

If anyone exposes Wilder, it will most likely be Povetkin first.

[LoadedWraps]

Bumped.

WAR FURY!!

[LoadedWraps]

New England is ducking me harder than Pac ducked PBF in 2009.

[bbboc.co.uk]

When is Wilder going to step up from street sweepers, cab drivers, and part-time shovel salesmen to face elite opposition and become more than a paper champion? Discuss.

Just to clarify, you think I bait threads and rile up posters to make you need to defend Fury against nationalist Wilder fans?

Are you schizophrenic?

[LoadedWraps]

Just to clarify, you think I bait threads and rile up posters to make you need to defend Fury against nationalist Wilder fans?

Are you schizophrenic?

The difference is, when I do it I am clear about my intentions.

Toe to toe poster, and the sig says.

[bbboc.co.uk]

You should check out my Hall of Fame page.

Might make you un red k me!
http://bbboc.co.uk/december-2015-rankings

[New England]

First of all....you know better than to confuse me with some random Brit casual fanboy, I am a freaking latino american from California. Heck I should be a more ardent fan of Ward than you, I can throw a stone and hit Oakland. I won't support an inactive fighter who refuses to face the kingpin of his division in GGG however, whether he is the home pick or not.

You know darn well there is no bias from my end.

Wilder is not faster than Fury, where does this myth come from?

And when was Fury ever easy to hit? I hope you don't references times in his previous fights where he was showboating and got tagged....that really says nothing, other than he was showboating and got caught.

And again, you keep clinging to this myth about Wlad being shot.

You are better than that New England, you know he wasn't throwing many punches because Fury was controlling him with feints, jabs, and ring generalship. I can't wait until Wlad's first fight after Fury, so I can call you out on that lie when we have irrefutable evidence.

Wilder is an aggresive fighter and probably makes it a war with Fury just because he can pressure him and will let his hands go and not be cautious, but Fury is the infinitely better boxer, the more intelligent fighter, and he has a granite chin and the heart of a lion. Wilder makes it to the 9th before the ref saves him from Magomed-type permanent damage.

Oh and please tell me what other dimensions Pac has other than throwing jabs and crosses with the occasional uppercut from the same three angles? Have you ever seen Pac make major tactical adjustments in a fight? Show me just one example. Just one!

"DUCKING ME BRO"

have a life, bro. havne't had time for bscene. no need for like 8 mentions on my bscene feed thing



where is my ward bias? show me ANY of it.

i'm extremely candid about the movement of andre ward, and his contribution to his inacitivity. ward's people would have been smart to wait for the retirement of floyd maywather to start to hold out for pay per view money and for networks to build him into PPV fights. it cost him several fights, and several million dollars. joe goossen had negotiated favorable terms for most of ward's career, and nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign an extension.

casuals, which most of you are, blame andre ward exclusively, as if he made ever decision, and that those decisions were the only reason he was inactive, or for opponents he didn't fight. in reality he broke two bones in his hand when he fought carl froch. kelly pavlik lost his mind and pulled out of tentative talks for a rematch after ward initially pulled out with an injury.




i assume anybody who thnks fury had some kind of gtreat performance is a brit, racist, etc. i assume the people who want to see fury win fighter of the year are similarly deluded. he beat a dead man! wladimir klitschko is almost 40 years old. his recent fights have been horrible, but it's very obvious now if you're willing to suffer through them that you're looking at an extremely depleted fighter.

a lot of you haven't been watching boxing for a while, but there was a time when a 30 year old boxer was considered over the hill.

even considering the level of deterioration, fury did very little to separate himself. if he's so easily making wladimir miss and being tentative, and has any offensive firepower at all, why did he go out there and do virtually nothing? this is boxing. you have the right to whoop ass if you can. he couldn't. no ass was whooped, unless you're british or an idiot and have no idea what an ass whooping looks like. fury stunk the joint out worse than wladimir usually does

wladimir might be the worst chinned, long term champion of all time. surely a great fighter will be able to do more against a chinny, dead man than jerk around from out of well out of arm's reach []


the reality that fury was in the right place at the right time will soon become apparent. none of these HW are very good and there's going to be parody in the division for the next few years, and it will make for exciting fights.


that a chinny, one trick pony like wladimir was able to hold that division hostage for 10 years says all you need to know about the talent at HW. the real talented athletes come from other srpots when they're grown men FFS

fury great doe



and i'm not even goign to touch this "GGG is the kingpin of his division, crap."

you clearly don't follow andre ward if you can't tell that he's not making 168 any longer, and that his team would have loved to take on the smaller p4p fighter hwo brings more money over the larger p4p fighter who brings less. golovkin is the best 160 lber in the world. he and ward are currently separated by two weight classes. i don't see golovkin volunteering to move up two weight classes to lost 10 or 11 rounds, and i don't blame him. if you guys can't understnad what two weight classes in boxing mean, that is on you!

people generally don't understand boxing. nobody spells this sport out for you. you ened to be critical, and learn for yourslves. most of you aren't capable of that.


keep posting on my notification wall like i don't have a life and that i'm ducking your sop****ric arguments, doe

[LoadedWraps]

"DUCKING ME BRO"

have a life, bro. havne't had time for bscene. no need for like 8 mentions on my bscene feed thing



where is my ward bias? show me ANY of it.

i'm extremely candid about the movement of andre ward, and his contribution to his inacitivity. ward's people would have been smart to wait for the retirement of floyd maywather to start to hold out for pay per view money and for networks to build him into PPV fights. it cost him several fights, and several million dollars. joe goossen had negotiated favorable terms for most of ward's career, and nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign an extension.

casuals, which most of you are, blame andre ward exclusively, as if he made ever decision, and that those decisions were the only reason he was inactive, or for opponents he didn't fight. in reality he broke two bones in his hand when he fought carl froch. kelly pavlik lost his mind and pulled out of tentative talks for a rematch after ward initially pulled out with an injury.




i assume anybody who thnks fury had some kind of gtreat performance is a brit, racist, etc. i assume the people who want to see fury win fighter of the year are similarly deluded. he beat a dead man! wladimir klitschko is almost 40 years old. his recent fights have been horrible, but it's very obvious now if you're willing to suffer through them that you're looking at an extremely depleted fighter.

a lot of you haven't been watching boxing for a while, but there was a time when a 30 year old boxer was considered over the hill.

even considering the level of deterioration, fury did very little to separate himself. if he's so easily making wladimir miss and being tentative, and has any offensive firepower at all, why did he go out there and do virtually nothing? this is boxing. you have the right to whoop ass if you can. he couldn't. no ass was whooped, unless you're british or an idiot and have no idea what an ass whooping looks like. fury stunk the joint out worse than wladimir usually does

wladimir might be the worst chinned, long term champion of all time. surely a great fighter will be able to do more against a chinny, dead man than jerk around from out of well out of arm's reach []


the reality that fury was in the right place at the right time will soon become apparent. none of these HW are very good and there's going to be parody in the division for the next few years, and it will make for exciting fights.


that a chinny, one trick pony like wladimir was able to hold that division hostage for 10 years says all you need to know about the talent at HW. the real talented athletes come from other srpots when they're grown men FFS

fury great doe



and i'm not even goign to touch this "GGG is the kingpin of his division, crap."

you clearly don't follow andre ward if you can't tell that he's not making 168 any longer, and that his team would have loved to take on the smaller p4p fighter hwo brings more money over the larger p4p fighter who brings less. golovkin is the best 160 lber in the world. he and ward are currently separated by two weight classes. i don't see golovkin volunteering to move up two weight classes to lost 10 or 11 rounds, and i don't blame him. if you guys can't understnad what two weight classes in boxing mean, that is on you!

people generally don't understand boxing. nobody spells this sport out for you. you ened to be critical, and learn for yourslves. most of you aren't capable of that.


keep posting on my notification wall like i don't have a life and that i'm ducking your sop****ric arguments, doe

There we go, I was ready to say New England was shot. He still has enough fight in him to make putting him down again more memorable.

So many holes in this arguement, it's hard to find somewhere to begin. Let's see:

Boxers are considered over the hill past 30 not because of age but because of what they might have been through up to that point, and because of irresponsibility, not because there is some magic line you cross on your 30th birthday that ages you overnight. Especially today, with greater nutritional knowledge and modern medicine, 40 is the new 30 in that regard anyway, so when we lok at the past, unless we are comparing a fighters activity (like how champions of the past were more active all around), styles, (greater technical pool in the past), or resumes (greater talent pool in the past), it's a pretty moot point to make.

So, you say Fury was in the right place at the right time, so I guess anyone else who enters the ring against Wlad that night has the same result? That's nonsense and you know it. You can't harp on about how familiar you are with boxing in comparison to the rest of the BoxingScene population (no metrics to back this up, but I will let this slide for now) and then go on and ignore such simple nuances of the sport like how the elementary but ever useful jab can control an opponent almost entirely, or how feints can do the same. Very rarely does a fighter "do nothing" for no real reason. They are furstrated and are getting outboxed is usually the first culprit, injuries, age, a lack of conditioning, and rigged fights are all distant options, and none of those hold weight in this instance, and if they do, do more than just suggest so, provide evidence.

Why did Fury not do more than he had to to win? I don't know, but my first guess is because he really didn't have to. And I can say he could have done more, and he certainly could have, and I wish he did, but fighters do this quite often, guys like Alexander, Ward, Floyd have done this many times, and being a fan of Floyd it bothered me in the way it did when I knew Fury could do more as well, but I never complained in that my fighter still won. So since other fighters only do what it takes to win without giving a hellacious beating or getting a stoppage even though they could, how hypocritical would it be to criticize only Fury for doing similar?

I would rather see Fury fight Povetkin or Wilder, but one good thing about the rematch is that after two dominating performances, there will even be less straws to grasp. I really hope Wlad comes forward or Fury presses, because one thing is true, the Wlad fight is the most boring of Fury's fights for the casual crowd who doesn't know what they are looking at, and this time around, I really hope for fireworks.

And why can't Ward make 168? If you follow him so closely than provide some reasoning. Ward is an exceptional fighter, a disciplined fighter, I believe he can make any weight he desires within his weight range, he isn't one to just get fat out of nowehere, so I don't buy it.

And how is GGG not the kingpin?

You say you support and understand his inactivity, well that's great, but it's not enough to keep Ward in the -4- rankings or high in division rankings if he isn't active. It just isn't. I love Maidana about as much as you love Ward, but Ward gets a pass to stay on lists after a long period of inactivity, but Maidana doesn't? Flawed logic, and he hasn't officially retired either before you use that as an excuse.