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  • #31
    It only means nothing if you haven't fought anyone worth a damn. Certain posters unfortunately have double standards when it comes down to judging whether or not an opponent is worth a damn.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
      If the fighter you're a fan of happens to be undefeated...then being undefeated is everything. If the fighter you hate is undefeated...then it means nothing and there are many asterisks.
      Thread ended here. It's no surprise most people who said "being undefeated means nothing" were Oscar and Pac fans. Just stating the obvious.

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      • #33
        It all depends on level of opposition, nothing else to it, literally...NOTHING.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
          I know this one!

          It's because NSB posters are a fickle bunch of ****s.
          only an NSB poster would know.

          are you an NSB poster?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rath View Post
            only an NSB poster would know.

            are you an NSB poster?
            I am an NSB poster and I'm fickle, whimsical ****!

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            • #36
              Being undefeated doesn't mean much if you're cruising along fighting guys levels below you. Let's take Broner for example, cruised through and won a few titles, stepped up to a decent opponent in Maidana and got his ass kicked..that's being exposed. Now he's back to winning belts against nobodies..

              Floyd being undefeated is a great feat, he fought almost every guy in his era and won. Granted a lot of those fights didn't take place when people wanted them to but in the end he could have had an off night and lost but he never did so credit to him for that.

              We don't know what guys like Spence,Vasquez,Parker,Joshua etc are about yet because they are fighting guys levels below them still. When they step it up if they get embarrassed the way Broner did then they will be "exposed" if they merely lose in a competitive fight then so be it.

              If GGG lost to Ward let's say, guys would still say he got exposed even though Ward is a top 1-3 P4P fighter..if he lost to Willie Monroe or Tureano Johnson then it would be applicable.

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              • #37
                Never heard that Froch quote before but I think it's **** on the money. Very few fighters can be a world champion, pursue a career with some longevity and retire undefeated. In fact, I think it's damn near impossible to do so without having missed several fights against opponents that would've caused 'em trouble.

                Take Mayweather for example, nice record on paper and he'll be a wet dream for boxing fans in 20 years when peeps forget who else was in the era and how good they were. People will cite that he beat Pac but few will know he did it 5 years too late.

                I'll respect the guy who fought everyone and beat most retiring with a 50-4 record then someone who is 50-0 and has avoided 5 other top fighters. It doesn't matter how many wins you've got, it matters who the fuck you won against.

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                • #38
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                  Because mostly people analysed through emotions and not on fighters skills. So the peoples who understand boxing like you guys talks about fighting skills of a fighter, circumstances and many other aspects. But a man like me when see that a fighter loose which is my favorite, i will raise finger on that fighter.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                    HahaHaha word.....

                    Or they can win every round convincingly and be somehow exposed haha

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                      If the fighter you're a fan of happens to be undefeated...then being undefeated is everything. If the fighter you hate is undefeated...then it means nothing and there are many asterisks.
                      this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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