Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Wants To Keep Building For 12-18 Months

[LacedUp]

With Teper out, could be Helenius-Chisora II next and Joshua can face the winner.

I wouldn't mind seeing him against Ustinov. He needs someone who can take him rounds and challenge him the right amount, and Ustinov is about the right level. Plus it'd be fun to see Joshua against a size disadvantage as that's what he can expect if he reaches the top. Eddie Chambers is another guy who would take Joshua rounds and be coming to win. Or if those are considered too much too soon then Takam or Eric Molina could be interesting although basically foregone conclusions. It might be too early for him to face Cunningham or Thompson but would be worth making, difficult learning fights.

The same Ustinov who was knocked out by a jab? Sure, he'd take Joshua rounds

Joshua could do well fighting some of the guys the top dogs have been fighting over the last couple of year - Wach, Duhaupas, Arreola, Hamer, Chisora, Eric Molina, Leapai, Malik Scott etc.

[LacedUp]

Huh? Everyone slammed Wilder over the past two years for not facing top guys but Joshua gets a pass?? Don't misunderstand, I believe both guys should be given respect for the fact that they have things to work on and don't need to be pushed to the wall. That's how you build a great boxer. I just don't get the inconsistencies among members here.

How do you compare a guy who's barely been pro 2 years to a guy who had more than 30 fights and has been pro for 7 years?

That doesn't make sense.

Joshua is fighting guys now like Dillian Whyte, who would be up there with the best Wilder's ever faced.

[Redd Foxx]

How do you compare a guy who's barely been pro 2 years to a guy who had more than 30 fights and has been pro for 7 years?

That doesn't make sense.

Joshua is fighting guys now like Dillian Whyte, who would be up there with the best Wilder's ever faced.

Don't pretend you don't know that Wilder's pro experience is more than balanced out by Anthony's amateur background.
And, Stiverne, before the Wilder fight, was FAR more relevant than Whyte (who no one ever heard of before last month).

You guys that get so rooted in your biases are impossible to converse with anyway so I'm not expecting you to give Wilder a fair shake to begin with. Just don't pretend you're not imposing a double standard.

[LacedUp]

Don't pretend you don't know that Wilder's pro experience is more than balanced out by Anthony's amateur background.
And, Stiverne, before the Wilder fight, was FAR more relevant than Whyte (who no one ever heard of before last month).

You guys that get so rooted in your biases are impossible to converse with anyway so I'm not expecting you to give Wilder a fair shake to begin with. Just don't pretend you're not imposing a double standard.

Why? He had something like 25 amateur fights and Joshua had 35 or something. Wilder was national champ and golden gloves champ and was in the olympics.

Pretty much exactly the same as Joshua who was also double national champ, although he also competed in the worlds and Europeans, but the amateur system in the US is far far better than the UK.

Yeah and who says he isn't? still doesn't take away from the fact that Wilder had 30+ fights against nobodies. Hell, as I said, Dillian Whyte is just about the second best fighter this "world champion" would have fought.

Lol yeah I'm biased. You're saying Joshua should get the same treatment as Wilder, the title holder, who's 30 years old with 35 fights. You immediately go to girl mode. Now that's just embarrassing.

And what is my double standard exactly? I'd like to know that, because what you said simply doesn't make any sense. And plenty of people have criticized the guys Joshua had been fighting until the Whyte fight.

The jealousy is real with this one .

[MrTambourineMan]

"When I come I'll be coming with force" - Anthony Joshua

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[Clegg]

The same Ustinov who was knocked out by a jab? Sure, he'd take Joshua rounds

Joshua could do well fighting some of the guys the top dogs have been fighting over the last couple of year - Wach, Duhaupas, Arreola, Hamer, Chisora, Eric Molina, Leapai, Malik Scott etc.

Ustinov isn't great but he took 11 rounds of power shots before that happened. He's a big lump but he's not going to go down without taking some punishment and trying to give some back. More of a challenge than Leapai or especially Hamer, who would quit on his stool as Joshua was making his ring walk. Plus you have Molina and Scott on your list who went down in 1 round without showing any resilience whatsoever so not sure why you single Ustinov out.

[Fury4daWIN]

With Teper out, could be Helenius-Chisora II next and Joshua can face the winner.

I wouldn't mind seeing him against Ustinov. He needs someone who can take him rounds and challenge him the right amount, and Ustinov is about the right level. Plus it'd be fun to see Joshua against a size disadvantage as that's what he can expect if he reaches the top. Eddie Chambers is another guy who would take Joshua rounds and be coming to win. Or if those are considered too much too soon then Takam or Eric Molina could be interesting although basically foregone conclusions. It might be too early for him to face Cunningham or Thompson but would be worth making, difficult learning fights.

How are Takam and Carlos Molina remotely on the same level? Good grief, the underrating this man Takam gets is ridiculous. He's a solid world class operator who'd give current Joshua fits, if not outright beat him. You do know that Takam completely dominated Tony Thompson, right? Also fought Perez to a draw and gave Povetkin one of his hardest fights in recent years. He's definitely several levels above Carlos bloody Molina. Borderline top ten, if not on there.

[Fury4daWIN]

Huh? Everyone slammed Wilder over the past two years for not facing top guys but Joshua gets a pass?? Don't misunderstand, I believe both guys should be given respect for the fact that they have things to work on and don't need to be pushed to the wall. That's how you build a great boxer. I just don't get the inconsistencies among members here.

Why are you talking about Wilder like he's some green contender? He's a 35 fight world champion who's been fighting professionally for seven years and will notch up his third title defence in a little under a month. Joshua has just had his fifteenth professional fight and hasn't progressed out of the domestic circuit yet.

The 'inconsistencies' here come from the very simple fact that both fighters aren't remotely at the same stages in their careers.

[Clegg]

How are Takam and Carlos Molina remotely on the same level? Good grief, the underrating this man Takam gets is ridiculous. He's a solid world class operator who'd give current Joshua fits, if not outright beat him. You do know that Takam completely dominated Tony Thompson, right? Also fought Perez to a draw and gave Povetkin one of his hardest fights in recent years. He's definitely several levels above Carlos bloody Molina. Borderline top ten, if not on there.

You're right, Takam is better than Molina. But I don't think he'd beat Joshua or come close. Yeah I know his career, he lost the first half of the fight to Perez and then Perez gassed, Takam didn't adjust, and Joshua to my eyes is better than Perez. As for giving Povetkin one of his most difficult recent fights, Perez went out in one round and aside from that Povetkin has beaten Rahman, random Polish guy, Wach and Charr in recent years so not a big achievement.

I'm not trying to run the guy down, he does deserve credit for the Thompson win and yes he'd beat Molina and be a harder fight. But how I see it, he has little chance of beating Joshua.

[BWC]

Huh? Everyone slammed Wilder over the past two years for not facing top guys but Joshua gets a pass?? Don't misunderstand, I believe both guys should be given respect for the fact that they have things to work on and don't need to be pushed to the wall. That's how you build a great boxer. I just don't get the inconsistencies among members here.

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