Who's the WBA middleweight champion, Golovkin or Jacobs?

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  • -PBP-
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    #101
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    whatever man....canelo is the middleweight champion...its not that deep
    He's a MW champion yet he never fought at the MW limit, says he's not a MW yet and won a vacant MW title over a JMW. Facts right? Come on son. You're too bitter. It's like:


    Dudes like you <<<---------------------------boxing fans--------------------------->Gullible Gennady Groupies


    Come to the middle and just enjoy the fights.

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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      FWIW it was interesting to hear Max on the fight game mention Jacobs win over Quillin being better than any win GGG has.
      That's the truth. I would argue Saunders win over Lee would be better than any single win as well.

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      • therealpugilist
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        #103
        Originally posted by PBP.
        He's a MW champion yet he never fought at the MW limit, says he's not a MW yet and won a vacant MW title over a JMW. Facts right? Come on son. You're too bitter. It's like:


        Dudes like you <<<---------------------------boxing fans--------------------------->Gullible Gennady Groupies


        Come to the middle and just enjoy the fights.
        Who'd Cotto beat for the title???? Sergio Martinez who was the lineal champion...he lost to Cotto who lost to Canelo

        we can enjoy the fights while also enjoying the truth....GGG isn't the middleweight champion...deal with it


        so Floyd wasn't junior middleweight champion? he never weighed in at 154 even though he beat the number one junior middleweight in Canelo


        Was Henry Armstrong never welterweight champion? he won it weighing in the 130s when he beat Barney Ross? He probably never weighed a full 147 having started at 126 and lower



        you sound silly bro...just face the music

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          #104
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          Who'd Cotto beat for the title???? Sergio Martinez who was the lineal champion...he lost to Cotto who lost to Canelo

          we can enjoy the fights while also enjoying the truth....GGG isn't the middleweight champion...deal with it


          so Floyd wasn't junior middleweight champion? he never weighed in at 154 even though he beat the number one junior middleweight in Canelo


          Was Henry Armstrong never welterweight champion? he won it weighing in the 130s when he beat Barney Ross? He probably never weighed a full 147 having started at 126 and lower



          you sound silly bro...just face the music
          Sergio Martinez was shot and his cherry picking is the reason why this division is in such shambles in the first place.

          Floyd is 3-0 at JMW and fought at the limit twice. Only the Canelo fight was at a catchweight. But he beat the 2 best JMWs so, yes he was the champion. But let's be real, he should have been stripped of that status long ago. And GTFOH comparing Canelo and Cotto to Henry Armstrong. An era when being THE world champion actually meant something.

          If boxing worked the way it did back then....Martinez and Cotto would be stripped of the belt for not fighting the #1 contender. But in your convenient dreamland you condone champions not fighting the #1 contenders and penalize the contender.

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          • therealpugilist
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            #105
            Originally posted by PBP.
            Sergio Martinez was shot and his cherry picking is the reason why this division is in such shambles in the first place.

            Floyd is 3-0 at JMW and fought at the limit twice. Only the Canelo fight was at a catchweight. But he beat the 2 best JMWs so, yes he was the champion. But let's be real, he should have been stripped of that status long ago. And GTFOH comparing Canelo and Cotto to Henry Armstrong. An era when being THE world champion actually meant something.

            If boxing worked the way it did back then....Martinez and Cotto would be stripped of the belt for not fighting the #1 contender. But in your convenient dreamland you condone champions not fighting the #1 contenders and penalize the contender.
            all you posted was your opinion man....your opinion don't mean that much



            catchweights didn't start this year, they have been a part of the sport for hundreds of years

            you dumb azz can you comprehend what you read???? I wasn't comparing them to Armstrong but what they have in common is, they beat the man to become the man....that is a champion fool


            There were alphabet boys back then, and in those days the best black fighters didn't even get title shots dumbazz.....national boxing association had their "world champions"......the NYSAC had their "world champions" also there were colored world champions and the IBU which was ran by the mob controlled champions and belts and who got title shots


            Most people on this site always talk about how boxing was in the past but really don't know shyt about the history of the sport

            whether you like it or not the history books will have Cotto and Canelo listed as middleweight champions because its a FACT



            politics have been in boxing forever and didn't start in this generation

            Henry Armstrong won the welterweight title in the 1930s when they had "colored" world titles.....the number one contenders were not getting title shots back then.....Charley Burley was the number one welterweight and middleweight contender and top ten the entire 1940s and never got a title shot......does that mean Sugar Ray Robinson should have been stripped of his welterweight title for not facing Burley......How about Tony Zale who held the title when it was froze during WW2 and he came back and fought Graziano whose best wins were over welterweights

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              #106
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              all you posted was your opinion man....your opinion don't mean that much



              catchweights didn't start this year, they have been a part of the sport for hundreds of years

              you dumb azz can you comprehend what you read???? I wasn't comparing them to Armstrong but what they have in common is, they beat the man to become the man....that is a champion fool


              There were alphabet boys back then, and in those days the best black fighters didn't even get title shots dumbazz.....national boxing association had their "world champions"......the NYSAC had their "world champions" also there were colored world champions and the IBU which was ran by the mob controlled champions and belts and who got title shots


              Most people on this site always talk about how boxing was in the past but really don't know shyt about the history of the sport

              whether you like it or not the history books will have Cotto and Canelo listed as middleweight champions because its a FACT



              politics have been in boxing forever and didn't start in this generation

              Henry Armstrong won the welterweight title in the 1930s when they had "colored" world titles.....the number one contenders were not getting title shots back then.....Charley Burley was the number one welterweight and middleweight contender and top ten the entire 1940s and never got a title shot......does that mean Sugar Ray Robinson should have been stripped of his welterweight title for not facing Burley......How about Tony Zale who held the title when it was froze during WW2 and he came back and fought Graziano whose best wins were over welterweights
              Dude. You're fvking insane. You posted a titangraph about blacks and racism and the history of boxing, none of which has anything to do with the topic at hand. Fact:

              1. Armstrong was the only recognized world champion

              2. The term "lineal champion" was made because of the emergence of the new alphabet belts.

              3. The "lineal title" is artificial, not recognized by any sanctioning body, not enforced by any organization and has no rules regarding the ranking of contenders. It is imaginary, but you enjoy living in your own imaginary world so maybe that's why you live and die by it.

              4. The history books as of today will say that Canelo was the WBC champion and Golovkin was the WBA champion, but both will go down in history as world champions.


              What else needs to be said? Got this dude writing books and fuming because I don't give a **** about his fake, imaginary titles that have no rules and aren't enforced by anybody.

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              • Jewish-Reptile
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                #107
                This question is flawed, Canelo is the champ. The WBA title holder is GGG, yet this 15 consecutive wins is bs, he has defences of a title that is all and those are questionable.

                GGG is superb boxer and a huge puncher at the weight and will walk through Canelo, make no bones about it. But he ain't the man until he has defeated the man.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  I keep seeing people claim Golovkin has 15 world title defences, but a lot of these were while there was a WBA Super Champion and Golovkin was WBA Regular Champion. If you count these then Jacobs must be the current WBA Champion right now, if not then Golovkin is the Champion. Either way Golovkin doesn't have 15 defences as WBA Champion.
                  Are you ******?

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by 1g5a22
                    Are you ******?
                    Dude why are you so desperate for my attention?

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                    • Madison Boxing
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by 1g5a22
                      Are you ******?
                      yes, yes he is.

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