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Do you consider Nonito Donaire to be a hall of famer or an all time great

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  • #21
    HOF, yes... All time great, No!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
      Nonito is a shoe In for the HOF and at haters who say he lost to the only elite fighters he fought. Pond for pound Darchinyan > Walters. Darchinyan is hurting guys bigger than him and was a force at Flyweight. Walters is good but lets see what happens once he moves up to LW.

      I would say borderline ATG. He was lineal at both Flyweight and Super Bantam. And completely dominated both champions. People gotta stop hating and give the man his props. In his prime he could hang with the best Flyweights of Alltime.
      I'd like to know who'd they favor over him at 112-118 in the past 15 years

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
        Nonito is a shoe In for the HOF and at haters who say he lost to the only elite fighters he fought. Pond for pound Darchinyan > Walters. Darchinyan is hurting guys bigger than him and was a force at Flyweight. Walters is good but lets see what happens once he moves up to LW.
        I would say borderline ATG. He was lineal at both Flyweight and Super Bantam. And completely dominated both champions. People gotta stop hating and give the man his props. In his prime he could hang with the best Flyweights of Alltime.
        Darchinyan was running over guys until he fought at bantamweight and higher


        a lot of people dont even watch the lighter weight classes but have an opinion on the fighters

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        • #24
          HOF yes but anybody can get in it so it don't mean jack ATG FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO

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          • #25
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            did you watch his fights with Montiel, Darchinyan 1, Moruti Mthalane, and Sidorenko?
            I did. Saw both Vic fights in which only one was impressive. I'll give him that. The second was pointless as Vic was a shell of himself. And Sidoronko? Was he suppose to beat Donaire or am I missing something? Didn't Moreno beat him way before?

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            • #26
              I don't like his resume. But his accomplishments do get him in probably. His 2012 fighter of the year resume ****** ass. Just fought 4 times against easy pickings. To be a HOFer or ATG, ideally in my eyes, you have to beat other future HOFers. That's not the actual criteria, but it should be. Beating other HOF caliber fighters gets you in the HOF or a spot in the imaginary ATG list.

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              • #27
                Nonito Donaire definitely deserves being an all time great, that is, being an all time great by being beaten by an all time great, Rigo!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  He is definitely a hall of famer......He was the lineal featherweight champion, unified junior feather weight champion/ ring champion and held titles flyweight and bantamweight.....very few fighters have had success making the jump from Flyweight to bantamweight or higher except Manny Pacquaio, fighting Harada and Jimmy McClarnin

                  unlike Pacquaio and McClarnin when they campaigned at 112 he was an adult and turned pro near 20 years old and fought their 8 years. Height-wise he was tall for the weight but he wasn't a young kid there.



                  I think it will be a long time before we see a fighter win titles from 112-126 and defeat so many top contenders and titleholders in so few fights


                  Nonito only has 39 fights and won titles in 4 weight classes, 11 former champions/title holders



                  He isn't the boxer or the best puncher but for what he was I consider him an all time great and its not very Many fighters I'd pick over him from 112-118....I really think he is pushing it fighting at 122-126

                  idk bro.. he took a atg hof ass whoopin from Rigo.

                  imo, his resume is weak. the fighters he beat came to lose plus he was much bigger. where is sidorneko now? narvaez? mthlane? not doing ****. and he won a foty award for fighting that weak caliber.

                  only reason he had any recognition was because 48 coat tail riding.

                  darch was his biggest win followed by beating an severley overrated montiel.

                  how overrated was dontcare? he won koty for a knockdown ffs. not a fan of ANY 48ers.

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                  • #29
                    HOF most definitely!

                    ATG, I'm not so sure. He had and possibly still does have, power, at the lower divisions he was a genuine KO puncher. He beat the best champions available and only ever lost to the best available or when he was under sized.

                    It's just the inconsistency that Donaire has shown in the last couple of years that has really let him down.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Elotero View Post
                      idk bro.. he took a atg hof ass whoopin from Rigo.

                      imo, his resume is weak. the fighters he beat came to lose plus he was much bigger. where is sidorneko now? narvaez? mthlane? not doing ****. and he won a foty award for fighting that weak caliber.

                      only reason he had any recognition was because 48 coat tail riding.

                      darch was his biggest win followed by beating an severley overrated montiel.

                      how overrated was dontcare? he won koty for a knockdown ffs. not a fan of ANY 48ers.
                      carlos zarate took an all time azz whooping from Wilfredo Gomez.....is he not an ATG


                      Gomez took a beating from Sanchez...is he not an ATG



                      There are less than 10 undefeated champions ever.....9/10 all the rest took azz whoopings



                      please tell me how his resume is weak when he only has 39 fights with 12 of them being against former champions and titlists....he only lost to the huge Walters and got outboxed by Rigo and a loss in his 2nd pro fight

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