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  • #31
    Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
    Ummm yes he was. 172lbs is LHW. Ward has even said himself in so many words that he can't make 168 and even has to cut weight to make 175.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
      So you need to beat a man 2 weight divisions above you in order to be considered pfp best?
      Don't be ******. Gennady had the perfect opportunity to jump 1 weight class and fight a willing top P4P guy. He refused and is now stuck fighting hopeless bums...just the way he, his team, his fans and HBO like it.

      Ward has moved on to 175 were a matchup between he and top the 3 P4P light heavy champ will fight at the end of next year.

      That's the difference between hype and true greatness.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
        Don't be ******. Gennady had the perfect opportunity to jump 1 weight class and fight a willing top P4P guy. He refused and is now stuck fighting hopeless bums...just the way he, his team, his fans and HBO like it.

        Ward has moved on to 175 were a matchup between he and top the 3 P4P light heavy champ will fight at the end of next year.

        That's the difference between hype and true greatness.
        Maybe you forgot how it all went down. Yes Ward wanted to fight GGG.......SOMETIME NEXT YEAR after 2 tuneups. That was the deal. You guys are acting as if Ward was ready to get in the ring with GGG right away.

        If Ward can still make 168 then great. Let GGG fight Canelo and if he moves up to 168 afterwards I'd like to see Ward meet him there.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
          Maybe you forgot how it all went down. Yes Ward wanted to fight GGG.......SOMETIME NEXT YEAR after 2 tuneups. That was the deal. You guys are acting as if Ward was ready to get in the ring with GGG right away.

          If Ward can still make 168 then great. Let GGG fight Canelo and if he moves up to 168 afterwards I'd like to see Ward meet him there.
          Golovkin isn't fighting Canelo. He bent over for him and will fight him "sometime in the future doe"

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Do you plan on packing on any extra muscle at 175 or are you good with maybe coming in smaller than some of these guys?

            AW: Nah, I'm not into packing on size. I gotta cut weight to get to '75. I think a lot of people think it's a major build-up situation. There's some things you're going to different. There's some different training methods and whatnot, but I have to cut to get to '75, so it's not like I'm putting on any kind of muscle like when Roy went to heavyweight or something like that. It's not that, so I'm not really interested in size. I want to keep my speed and I want to keep my explosiveness. We'll change some things, but size is not the answer.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
              Do you plan on packing on any extra muscle at 175 or are you good with maybe coming in smaller than some of these guys?

              AW: Nah, I'm not into packing on size. I gotta cut weight to get to '75. I think a lot of people think it's a major build-up situation. There's some things you're going to different. There's some different training methods and whatnot, but I have to cut to get to '75, so it's not like I'm putting on any kind of muscle like when Roy went to heavyweight or something like that. It's not that, so I'm not really interested in size. I want to keep my speed and I want to keep my explosiveness. We'll change some things, but size is not the answer.
              He never said he couldn't make 168.

              Golovkin fans are running with that fallacy doe. That's why you have to use phrases like "in so many words"

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                He never said he couldn't make 168.

                Golovkin fans are running with that fallacy doe. That's why you have to use phrases like "in so many words"
                So if he has to cut weight to make 175, what does he have to do to make 168? Cut off a limb?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                  So if he has to cut weight to make 175, what does he have to do to make 168? Cut off a limb?
                  He was 174lbs almost 3 weeks before the Smith fight which was at 172.

                  Stop seeing what you want to see.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    He was 174lbs almost 3 weeks before the Smith fight which was at 172.

                    Stop seeing what you want to see.
                    It's not about what I want to see. I'm just going off of Wards own words and actions. If he could have made 168 he would have rather than fighting at 172lbs.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                      It's not about what I want to see. I'm just going off of Wards own words and actions. If he could have made 168 he would have rather than fighting at 172lbs.
                      And he's never once said the words that he can't make 168 so stop spreading the GGG propaganda.

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