Comments Thread For: Roach Admits: Floyd Mayweather is King of This Era

[IMDAZED]

Winky was a cherry pick IMO. So was Pavlik as neither belonged at LHW. Possibly Pascal at that time too. And guys like Cloud, Murat, Shumenov just aren't very good.

[Drunken Cat]

Pavlik was a true definition of a cherry pick....cw fight vs a style that bhop always destroyed......the only argument against it being a cherry pick were the vegas odds but if you studied bhop's career and styles you can see what it was a cherry pick.

Hopkins was an underdog.

'Only argument is Vegas odds?'

Well, why don't you go on to Vegas and become a millionaire?

If you have such foresight.

It was a good fight, and Hopkins was the underdog; and absolutely dominated.

Hopkins was fighting at light heavyweight, so the catchweight wasn't really that unreasonable.

[IMDAZED]

Hopkins was an underdog.

'Only argument is Vegas odds?'

Well, why don't you go on to Vegas and become a millionaire?

If you have such foresight.

It was a good fight, and Hopkins was the underdog; and absolutely dominated.

Hopkins was fighting at light heavyweight, so the catchweight wasn't really that unreasonable.

I get what you're saying but as it stands in 2016, nothing suggests Pavlik above 160 should be considered a good win. He lost both times he moved up, was slower, lost power and on and on.

[Drunken Cat]

Winky was a cherry pick IMO. So was Pavlik as neither belonged at LHW. Possibly Pascal at that time too. And guys like Cloud, Murat, Shumenov just aren't very good.

The Wright and Pavlik fights were at super middleweight, and Pascal and Cloud were both titlists, who had their titles lifted by Hopkins.

The hate is unbelievable.

Hopkins is one of the greatest fighters of all time.

I repeat, he is above Floyd, on my list, if I was to make one.

[IMDAZED]

The Wright and Pavlik fights were at super middleweight, and Pascal and Cloud were both titleliits, who had their titles lifted by Hopkins.

The hate is unbelievable.

Hopkins is one of the greatest fighters of all time.

I repeat, he is above Floyd, on my list, if I was to make one.

No, they were above super middle. I mean seriously...Winky Wright at 170lbs? Terrible.

LOL @ hate. I certainly don't hate him. He's an ATG. but ok.

[Drunken Cat]

I get what you're saying but as it stands in 2016, nothing suggests Pavlik above 160 should be considered a good win. He lost both times he moved up, was slower, lost power and on and on.

That was just an excuse.

Hopkins took his soul, and his manhood.

[Drunken Cat]

No, they were above super middle. I mean seriously...Winky Wright at 170lbs? Terrible.

LOL @ hate. I certainly don't hate him. He's an ATG. but ok.

I know they were catchweights, but closer to super middle.

Okay, my mistake.

[IMDAZED]

That was just an excuse.

Hopkins took his soul, and his manhood.

Sorry, Pavlik at 170 isn't impressive. I mean...has he done something above 160 that should warrant that? I didn't think so.

[IMDAZED]

I know they were catchweights, but closer to super middle.

Okay, my mistake.

They were at LHW and Ronald Wright had no business being there. Pavlik too.

[hitking]

You make some fair points. But you seem to have undue scorn for Hopkins.

He is a great fighter.

I accept your points.

Saying that the Kovalev fight was something untoward seems very ridiculous.

Surely he took the fight because he thought he could win.

Kovalev is considered the best fighter in the world at his weight.

That is, frankly, a bit ridiculous of a comment which you made.

Much of what you said is quite ridiculous, in my opinion. But you also made some fair points.

The points are only ridiculous because you view Hopkins through eyes of admiration. Just like most of the points you made about Floyd seem ridiculous to me because we view Floyd in a different light. That's the problem when you go nitpicking fighters resumes. Any semi-knowledgeable fight fan can shred 99% of all fighters resumes in one way or another. And more times than not its based on you you feel personally about a fighter.

I don't wanna come off as tring to **** on Hopkins. I'm a fan of his, probably moreso than Floyd. He's a felon that's pulled himself up, stayed outta trouble, and made something of his life. I can relate. He had a much rougher upbringing than me, and made it out. I think Floyd tends to exaggerate some of hus heartships growing up. As a man, I respect Hopkins a helluvs lot more than I respect Floyd. That said, I think Floyd was a better fighter. And my post was mostly to give you a visual as to how Hopkins career was just ad carefully constructed as Floyd's. Probably more carefully constructed. Because Floyd chased big fights. Where Hopkins let the fights come to him.