Comments Thread For: Roach Admits: Floyd Mayweather is King of This Era

[IMDAZED]

BWaHAHaahahaHAHAHAhahaaHAHa!!

Silly, childish response. Try something of substance.

[IMDAZED]

What subject did I change? You say you rate Roy and Nard higher because they took more risks. I disagree. I've laid my reasons for disagreeing on the table. I'm just trying to get an understanding as to what your definition of taking a risk is.

Bernard is an ATG but nothing suggests he took more risks.

[IMDAZED]

It would've had to be the only one, because he got KO'd by Shane, got suspended in the states, fought in Tijuana or someplace like that, then fought Pac.

He fought an absolute nobody at 154 and looked terrible.

[hitking]

Bernard is an ATG but nothing suggests he took more risks.

He actually took less. Rate his top 5 wins. At least three of them, probably four were against guys moving up.

[TrueBoxingFan23]

So how much cash did you make on Hopkins-Pavlik?

Pavlik was undefeated, and Hopkins was the underdog.

Take your revisionist history somewhere else.

And at the time of the fight, I thought Hopkins might be past it, to answer the question.

And he was the underdog.

We disagree about where we put Floyd, RJJ, and B Hop but I think they trippin about B Hop cherry picking! Pavalick was not a cherry pick. He was a beast at the time and undefeated. Winky was because he had already fell off and when they fought he was coming off a long lay off. But B Hop career is not a cherry pick. Any fighter fighting through out their late 30s and well into their 40's isn't acherry pick. Any fight in your 40's is a risk! B Hop is a beast and ATG I just don't put him above Floyd

[Larry the boss]

Manny was one armed plus ducked for 5 years and Not in his prime.
Mosley was OLD and even though he had Jr on ***** Street had nothing
Ortiz defined Jr ? Hahahaha
Judah hahahahaha tyzu's leftover
Madiana drew in fight one but still a b or c fighter this is getting worse
Much worse because Hatton was a 140 fighter worse still you said Balto WOW hahahahah

Same Dribble over a cherry picker who avoided the real prime elites when it all counted and wormed his way to championships

You failed

Who has done more at 147 in recent years....i'll wait

[TrueBoxingFan23]

technically record unbeaten wise sure floyd.

but in terms of giving the fans great memorable fights, floyd's wayyyyy down the list.

oscar, roy, manny, tyson all gave boxing fans greater memorable fights than floyd.

what's floyd's most memorable fight?

how many great fights has floyd given the fans who paid ppv? even his pacquiao win, he won but he really didnt do much. he didnt do anything memorable in that fight.

they all were boring stale fights devoid of action and drama. but hey at least his 24/7 and all access shows were legendary.

He had many! I mean it's 49 fights. I think you just judging the back end of his career. When Floyd was young in the beginning of his career Floyd was a killer! He was way more offensive, but when you move up in weight and fought bigger champs you have to adjust! To me boxing entertainment isn't always about blood and guts. Sometimes you have to look at skills which of you do all you can do is sit back and say wow. But you have to be a student of the sport and not just a fan. Once you do that you can appreciate every style and you can recognize what type looking at

[Larry the boss]

I suppose he is from an overlapping era, but I can see the argument.

I don't hold it against a fighter who carries on too long.

It is sad to see, and happens way to much.

I rate based on prime, for the most part.

There are exceptions; I got in a debate with a friend about whether Tyson or Ali was greater (to me it is obvious). One of my arguments in favor of Ali was his longevity.

Also, during his good years, he lost 2 fights, and avenged both twice (the Frazier fight was coming off his exile, and in the Norton fight he suffered a broken jaw. He beat both guys twice in rematches.)

My friend tried to argue that prime Tyson would have beat Ali. I stated Tyson would have needed a knockout to possibly win against Ali, and was taken the distance by the like of James Tillis, among others.

I don't mind the argument that Floyd is ahead of Roy (and/or Hopkins), but I just don't see things that way.

I wish Roy would stop fighting. But, he achieved more, in my opinion.

achieved more how??

Less world titles
Less lineal titles
less hall of famers on his resume
less wins in title fights
less divisional titles

more title defenses 18 to roys 17


so how did he achieve more?

[Pigeons]

Of course he is.

[twosweethooks]

That idiot has been throwing that same BS out for years like it stumps Floyd's supporters. First of all, Floyd is arguably still a HOF'r if you completely erase his run at 47. And he tries to throw out "primed elite" welterweight because guys like Manny and Mosley were past their physical primes. Totally disregarding that Floyd was as well. Then he tries to **** on guys like JMM and Hatton, P4P guys who moved up to fight Floyd. But the reality is Floyd and Hatton are roughly the same age and turned pro at roughly the same time. And in the years that proceeded their welterweight clash. Hatton fought exclusively at 140, while Floyd came all the wsy from from 130 to eventually get Hatton at 47. So unless Floyd hit puberty at 30, there's not a lotta size difference there. And he'll **** on JMM who did quite well at 47 against a guy he claims is better than Floyd. Not to mention he completely ****s on Baldomir who was the lineal champ. Ironically, the lineal title meant nothing when Floyd fought Baldomir. But now means everything when they wanna see GGG fight a jr middleweight. Dude's a f.uck ret@rd and only comuc relief when I'm really bored.

Poor little guy hahahaha you are struggling and reaching but fell short face first in a pile of ****!

Jrs legacy is written !

It cannot be reversed!

He will go down as Aduckus da chicken that ducked prime elites like Margo that is on video.

People that are not duped like you and many others know what and how jr made his legacy.

They know he waited like a vulture on a fighter to falter when he was vulnerable and took advantage of the man BUT never did he fight an undefeated mature prime elite to prove himself !!! He went to the bone yard !!! He barely got by an old ODH on the cards but in reality was beaten when he should have won easily. TBE sc****d by a c rated boxer named Maidana. Hatton and JMM had no business at WW with JMM having never gone above 130 and Hatton looking terrible at WW!

Truth is yall can't take the truth so go ahead and live in yer lies! You make a fool outa yo self every time you open yo mouth Mang hahahaha

Yer Rollin in the dribble Mang and you may kiss where the sun never shines hahahahaha