[rant about ufc vs boxing] pretty pointless thread

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  • big_james10
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    #41
    Originally posted by nivek535
    just want to say a big ****.
    this really sucks.
    being a boxing fan is hard at this time lol
    watching ufc get all the fights they want made,
    fights lived up to the hype
    while boxing's biggest fights were filled with disappointments..
    and the worst part is, some of our biggest names are still sayin **** like theyre mayweather... thinking they aer some kinda super elite fighter with ultimate A-side-demands...

    FCK!!!!!!
    somebody make some noise in boxing :'(

    edit:
    basically, im jealous how ufc is run so well. boxing meh.
    if only everyone would take a step back, risk their 0s, then everyone would be better and happier in the LONG RUN.
    UFC fighters get paid peanuts for risking brain damage and death. They have no say over who they fight or when (ex: Holly Holm being told that she must fight Ronda Rousey in a rematch in July 2016 and not given the option of taking another fight before that rematch). If that is your idea of being run well, then the UFC is the best run corporation in the world.

    However, if you are a person who thinks fighters should get paid what they deserve and have some say over who they fight and when, you do not think the UFC is run well.

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    • big_james10
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      #42
      Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
      McGregor-Aldo did well over a million and Aldo was an unknown to the American and Irish public.

      Bet on TBE returning in May and his opponent will be Conor McGregor.
      According to who? Promoters always lie about the PPV numbers that their promotions do. If Dana White says the fight sold 1.2 million PPVs, that means it actually sold 700,000.

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      • SouthPawHitman
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        #43


        vs.



        Based on my early projections,the skull comparisons are pretty close.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #44
          Originally posted by BWC
          Well there's a reason UFC's "champions" and prospects get smashed every other fight. They throw their top stars in with killers their 5th fight and they lose badly and lose all their marketability
          People in boxing are too concerned with marketability on the individual level is the problem. The marketability of the overall sport has suffered because of that.

          And few cats win NFL titles back to back or NBA championships or whatever else in other sports. One of the signs of greatness in these more competitive sports than boxing is the ability to continual stay on top. In boxing guys like Sven Ottke can stay on top for years cuz there is no quality control for anyone in the game outside of mandatory fights which seldom seem to be the legit top contender for any particular title holder.

          I think fighters having less control over their opposition would increase the boxing fanbase & be more enjoyable for the hardcore fans.

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          • dr.french
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            #45
            Originally posted by BWC
            LOL WTF are you talking about. In 2014 UFC sold the fewest PPV's since 2006. 2015 was better but boxing still sold 1-2mm more PPVs than UFC did this year.

            You guys act like UFC is this overwhelming dominant force. Boxing is still far far more popular than UFC.
            In the last 8 years how many times has boxing beaten UFC total PPV buys? Yes, with May Pac figured, boxing did very well in 2015. But everyone knows that was a one time thing. UFC has reliable numbers, boxing does not. Is there even a single legit PPV star left once Pac leaves? Maybe Canelo.

            The point is UFC makes a lot of money and is very healthy. Can't say the same about PBC that has lost tens of millions and for HBO and SHO who constantly evaluate how worthwhile or profitable boxing is.

            No one said its this overwhelming dominant force, but UFC does make a lot of money.

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            • BWC
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              #46
              Originally posted by dr.french
              In the last 8 years how many times has boxing beaten UFC total PPV buys? Yes, with May Pac figured, boxing did very well in 2015. But everyone knows that was a one time thing. UFC has reliable numbers, boxing does not. Is there even a single legit PPV star left once Pac leaves? Maybe Canelo.

              The point is UFC makes a lot of money and is very healthy. Can't say the same about PBC that has lost tens of millions and for HBO and SHO who constantly evaluate how worthwhile or profitable boxing is.

              No one said its this overwhelming dominant force, but UFC does make a lot of money.
              Anyone can play than game. Take out RR and Conor fights and how many PPVs did UFC sell? All UFC has is one PPV star as well. Most UFC cards sell around 200k if they're lucky.

              Add in Showtime, PBC, HBO and the boxing viewership dwarfs UFC in viewership even here in good old "boxing is dead" USA. And I was into UFC before I got into boxing. UFC might get more pub on TMZ but boxing is still waaaaaay bigger.

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                #47
                Originally posted by JulianQ
                This! 100% correct.
                I love boxing but I am tired of watching boxing prospects pad their records by fighting a string of bums and journeymen. And then after 20 or 30 fights try their best to avoid another top fighter. Boxing has become risk mitigation while UFC puts the best against the best early on. Take Conor McGregor for example - he will probably face Frankie Edgar next or fight the undisputed LW champ. No easy fights.
                /rant.
                Exactly , guys need to face each other when they are at their best .. Boxing needs to at least start there ..

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