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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
    3. Margarito-Cotto I
    Legit win or loaded hand wraps?
    Or other?
    I think you can always speculate when a guy is caught with PEDs or in this case loaded wraps that they weren't caught the first time they used those means to give them an edge, but you can't convict someone on speculation so until proven otherwise I think you gotta give Margarito the Cotto win legitimately.

    4. Wilder-Scott
    Legit win or a dive?
    Or other?
    This looked sketchy as f#ck to me for sure. Idk if its for sure a dive, but definitely a sketchy performance by Scott.

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    • Tedkidlewis
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      #12
      Interesting. Some divided opinions here,

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      • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I think you can always speculate when a guy is caught with PEDs or in this case loaded wraps that they weren't caught the first time they used those means to give them an edge, but you can't convict someone on speculation so until proven otherwise I think you gotta give Margarito the Cotto win legitimately.



        This looked sketchy as f#ck to me for sure. Idk if its for sure a dive, but definitely a sketchy performance by Scott.
        I dont think so if you watched scott vs thompson, scott went down the exact same way from the exact same punch, now surely wilder hits lot harder than thompson

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        • UNBIASED BOXING
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          #14
          #1 The punch landed, but Liston purposely dived IMO.

          #4 Scott definitely took a dive.



          @1:10

          Look at Scott's eyes. He's still looking directly and perfectly at Wilder. Never once does his eyes wonder around after that shot. Just watch his facial expression all the way until 1:19.
          Last edited by UNBIASED BOXING; 12-12-2015, 12:47 PM.

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          • Dr Rumack
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            #15
            Pryor was beating the hell out of Arguello. I don't care what was in his bottle.

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            • Luilun
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              #16
              Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
              You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers....

              1. Ali-Liston II
              Legit win or phantom punch?
              Or other?

              2. Pryor-Arguello I
              Legit win or illegal drinking substance?
              Or other?

              3. Margarito-Cotto I
              Legit win or loaded hand wraps?
              Or other?

              4. Wilder-Scott
              Legit win or a dive?
              Or other?

              5. Tunney-Dempsey II
              Legit win or long count?
              Or other?
              Liston took a dive Panama brown would throw crush asthma medicine to open the lungs Luis Resto is on YouTube stating that Scott took a dive

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              • Luilun
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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                I think you can always speculate when a guy is caught with PEDs or in this case loaded wraps that they weren't caught the first time they used those means to give them an edge, but you can't convict someone on speculation so until proven otherwise I think you gotta give Margarito the Cotto win legitimately.



                This looked sketchy as f#ck to me for sure. Idk if its for sure a dive, but definitely a sketchy performance by Scott.
                So Floyd has been doing this IV thing since when the Luster De la Hoya win ?

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                • ironmike2012
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                  #18
                  Liston threw the fight (both times).
                  Panama Lewis gave him the bottle that he mixed, his own words.
                  Cotto got beat by Tony, too many people watching the hand wrapping in Vegas to have cheated. Tony could throw over 100 punched per round, his pressure would have been bad for Cotto (or anyone).
                  Wilder fight looked suspect (funny it was in Puerto Rico, so no US investigation, like Liston/Clay,Ali fights.
                  Count was not long, Dempsey didn't go to his corner. When Dempsey was dropped, the ref started counting immediately. That made the count under more question.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ironmike2012
                    Liston threw the fight (both times).
                    Panama Lewis gave him the bottle that he mixed, his own words.
                    Cotto got beat by Tony, too many people watching the hand wrapping in Vegas to have cheated. Tony could throw over 100 punched per round, his pressure would have been bad for Cotto (or anyone).
                    Wilder fight looked suspect (funny it was in Puerto Rico, so no US investigation, like Liston/Clay,Ali fights.
                    Count was not long, Dempsey didn't go to his corner. When Dempsey was dropped, the ref started counting immediately. That made the count under more question.

                    Why wasnt his pressure bad for a older mosley? Or anyone after he fought cotto?
                    Also the same substance that was found in the first fight was also found in the Mosley fight he cheated bro

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
                      You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers....

                      1. Ali-Liston II
                      Legit win or phantom punch?
                      Or other?

                      2. Pryor-Arguello I
                      Legit win or illegal drinking substance?
                      Or other?

                      3. Margarito-Cotto I
                      Legit win or loaded hand wraps?
                      Or other?

                      4. Wilder-Scott
                      Legit win or a dive?
                      Or other?

                      5. Tunney-Dempsey II
                      Legit win or long count?
                      Or other?
                      1. Legit Win
                      2. illegal drinking substance
                      3. Loaded hand wraps
                      4. Legit win (Wilder slapped molina, made his eyes rolls back & got a kd)
                      5. A REEEEAAALLLLYYYYY long 14-15 count

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