is pacquiao the greatest southpaw of all time??

[IMDAZED]

Chavez yes (what a robbery) but Azumah is not better than everyone Pacquiao has beaten, not to mention he didn't belong in the LW division at all. Pacquiao often beat guys at their best divisions, where they were the bigger men.

But if you can only name two guys on Whitaker's resume that were true stand outs and HOF/ATG, then it reflects poorly.

Plus, the guy I replied to said WHitaker's resume was better than Hagler's too, Hagler beating Hearns v Duran is superior to Chavez and Azumah, surely?

But like I said, it's not much between them, overall I have Pacquiao and Hagler higher, then Whitaker. I can see it being the other way around for some.

So Chavez yes. Nelson over almost everyone else. Let's keep going. McGirt was a top 5 p4p in his natural division when Pea fought him. Vasquez was a division up, in his natural division when Pea fought him. And Vasquez had killed Winky Wright. Let's keep going.

[-PBP-]

They're all great. Vote for whoever you like the most.

[madsweeney]

How does one weight greatness in boxing? In my opinion it's through achievements, championships and championship reigns, skill set of said fighter and of course opponents beaten.

Pacquiao scores highly in every category and probably outscores Whitaker in all those categories. Hagler is probably tougher, he holds a destructive win over Hearns, then again Pacquiao has destructive wins over Morales and Barrera and Cotto. Hagler's win over Duran is good but the man ,standing at 5'6'' was a small middleweight at best and no longer the ferocious fighter of 1975-80. Then again, something must be said of being THE guy in the mw division for the best part of a decade.

For me, it's probably:

Hagler/Pacquiao
Whitaker

Close between all 3 but Pacquiao and Hagler probably coming out on top.

I'm in agreement with you, however, I did vote Pac only because I give his over-all achievements a nod over Hagler's reign.

Personally, I don't think anyone utilized the southpaw stance angles to the same effect that Pac did. Haggler/Whitaker are better fundamentally than pac, but Pac abused the **** out of his angles...and that strait left.

[HanzGruber]

It actually is in order - the 900 refers to Pacquiao's active score, which is different than his career score. The latter is what's used to rank when you click on 'All Boxers', but the active score is what shows up in either case if the boxer is not retired. His career score is higher than 948.

EDIT: That being said, Whittaker's 948 doesn't do him justice since that includes the Chavez 'draw'.

Oh I see. Well fair and unbiased has PAC number 2 then I guess they're right

[therealpugilist]

Yeah, truth be told I have a lot of gaps when it comes to pre-WWII boxing. As far as I've gotten into this video up to now it looks like Corbett was a problem doe.

the 1910s-30s has a lot of overlooked or forgotten greats....a LOT of them look like they could compete today

[MRBOOMER]

He's definitely in the top 5 I'm trying to think of left handed fighters but seem to keep drawing a blank I can think of plenty just not many that have reached that level.

Do Camacho and Calzaghe get a spot in this too?

[Kagami Taiga]

Pea is greater and so is the Marvellous one.

[BrometheusBob.]

Oh I see. Well fair and unbiased has PAC number 2 then I guess they're right

[joseph5620]

No. Not as long as Pernell Whitaker exist.

[joseph5620]

So Chavez yes. Nelson over almost everyone else. Let's keep going. McGirt was a top 5 p4p in his natural division when Pea fought him. Vasquez was a division up, in his natural division when Pea fought him. And Vasquez had killed Winky Wright. Let's keep going.

No catchweight for Whitaker either. But you're arguing with somebody who doesn't have a clue about what he's talking about. He's studying the hell out of box rec right now